Re: [CR]Japanese frames

(Example: Racing:Jacques Boyer)

From: "Scott Peterson" <bobbycorno@bendbroadband.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <49334.68.7.137.37.1130548223.squirrel@acs-webmail.ucsd.edu>
Subject: Re: [CR]Japanese frames
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:41:13 -0700


Hmmm.... a very attractive idea. But do they have the background to build a 62cm randonneuse that will actually work? (Not too many 1.90meter, 82 kg Japanese cyclists, I'd bet.)

Scott "that's 6'3", and 180 lbs" Peterson Bend, OR


----- Original Message -----
From: cmartell@ucsd.edu
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:10 PM
Subject: [CR]Japanese frames



> List:
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> The sudden interest on Japanese frames is mind boggling. I have a custom
> Kalavinka by Akio Tanabe. Very clean, very nice. But very straight
> forward investment cast lugs and bottom bracket with Vertical mill
> mitering. Their conception of a frame is very different than the one here
> in the US. Their prices are also very different: you can get a frame from
> master craftsmen like Cherubim (Konno's Brother), Makino, Vivalo,
> Kalavinka, and Nagasawa for about $1400.00 (NJS). I suspect that when they
> add the hours for frame construction they can come up with a fair price,
> their market is very different also (keirin racing etc.). The same goes
> for TOEIs. Their basic frame (sans racks) is $1200.00. All of these
> makers can ship to the US.
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> cheers,
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> carlos martell
> San Diego, Califas.
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> ps.
> Some makers take internet orders. So go direct to the source.
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> > they're a well-respected keirin builder. there are a few folks here in
> san francisco who ride their frames, and what i've seen has been very
> nice.
> > don't know if they're availble in the states, the ones i've seen came
> from e-framebank.com, but they're not shipping overseas right now. galen
> pewtherer
> > san francisco, ca
> > On 10/28/05, fatcogtom@comcast.net <fatcogtom@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> List:
> >> Anyone heard of Makino from Japan? Are they available in the states?
> Any
> > info would be appreciated.
> >> Tom Martin
> >> Oakland CA