Joe, do not attempt to poison the C.R. list as you have done to the framebuilders list. This is a question you should be posing to Dale Brown.
At least Sheldon has something positive to contribute.
Do not bother replying as I will delete your e-mail. I would ignore your ranting in person as well, so it has nothing to do with the anonymity of e-mail. And keep it off list.
Jay Sexton
Sebastopol, CA