Re: [CR]REVERSING FORKS OUT FOR TRACKRACING??!! NOW, MOTOR-PACED BIKES?


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From: "Scott Peterson" <bobbycorno@bendbroadband.com>
To: "Peter Jourdain" <pjourdain@yahoo.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <20051003175821.69393.qmail@web34106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]REVERSING FORKS OUT FOR TRACKRACING??!! NOW, MOTOR-PACED BIKES?
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:22:56 -0700


Peter -

Beyond being able to recognize a motor-paced bike when I see one, I couldn't tell you much. There are a couple photos of Ted Ernst's old pacer here: http://www.velo-retro.com/vrII3.html Off hand I'd say Chuck Schmidt and Ted Ernst (both of whom, I think, are regular contributors to this list) should be able to tell you much more about this branch of the sport. Chuck? Ted? are you out there?

Scott Peterson


----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Jourdain"
To: "Scott Peterson" ;


<classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [CR]REVERSING FORKS OUT FOR TRACKRACING??!! NOW, MOTOR-PACED BIKES?


> Thanks so much, Scott--
>
> Ah-ha! I have no doubt that you're right (unless
> others can contradict). But to be honest with you, I
> didn't know there were special bikes for motor-pacing,
> except for those special rigs set up to smash speed
> records, etc. So all this is new to me, and very
> fascinating. Tell me, Scott--or anyone--who were some
> of the manufacturers of motor-paced bikes? Did many of
> the regular British makes build such steeds?
>
> Peter Jourdain
> Seeing the light, in Whitewater, Wisconsin
>
> --- Scott Peterson <bobbycorno@bendbroadband.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Those look like motor-pace bikes to me. Note the
> > small front wheel and
> > reversed fork, both intended to get the rider closer
> > to his pacer and get a
> > better draft.
> >
> > Scott Peterson
> > Bend, OR
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > Peter Jourdain [edit] wrote> >
> > > 1. Are these in fact road bikes both chaps are
> > riding,
> > > with the forks spun round?
> > >
> > > 2. If not, was there some kind of British (or
> > other
> > > marque) track bike built with reverse-curve forks?
> > >
> > > 3. If they are road bikes, was it a common
> > practice
> > > for clubmen to spin their forks round like this
> > when
> > > racing on the track?
> > >
> > > 4. Have any of you ever seen, heard of, or
> > attempted
> > > such a thing before?
> > >
> > > 5. On the practical level of physics and
> > > bio-mechanics, does reversing a fork absolutely
> > help a
> > > track rider, or is there a trade-off in the area
> > of
> > > stability, steering, etc.?
> > >
> > > In retrospect it certainly is conceivable to me
> > that
> > > many an amateur clubman would not be wealthy
> > enough to
> > > afford separate road and track mounts, and that
> > the
> > > idea of fork reversal might be appealing to them,
> > but
> > > I'd never considered it before and this practice
> > is,
> > > to me, anyway, a revelation.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/pjourdain/detail?.dir=/a4b4&.dnm=743f.jpg&.src
> > =ph
> > >
> > > Cheerio to all,
> > >
> > > Peter Jourdain
> > > Wondering in Whitewater, Wisconsin