Dwight Safter and Ron Boi frame builders RE: [CR]Was: Holy mackerel, 77 Masi Prestige Fiera, Now: holes in csbridge


From: "Tom Barsh @ Codeware" <tom@codeware.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Dwight Safter and Ron Boi frame builders RE: [CR]Was: Holy mackerel, 77 Masi Prestige Fiera, Now: holes in csbridge
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 10:12:52 -0600
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I remember Dwight Safter pretty well (after my memory got jogged) from Chicago, Illinois, USA. I remember when he went out to California to learn from Al Eisentraut. I guess the idea was that he would build frames under the "Turin" banner and I remember his brazing and hacksawing away in the back of the shop. At that time the lines Turin carried were Raleigh and Mercier (and later Dawes when the bike boom demand was really strong) for the low end; higher end included Falcon, and Holdsworth, Jack Taylor, Poliaghi, and Whitcomb. Later came the Masi's and Colnago's. Oh, and how could I forget the Bob Jackson's? Talk about beautiful frames! (like jewelry!). I wish I still had my Jackson, but somehow the custom frame turned out too big for me and it got sold.

Ike was a really big guy, big and tall, and he also drove BMW motorcycles. Maybe he got into frame building since he always seemed to have a hard time finding bike frames that would last under his weight and pushing, let alone be tall enough for him.

Lee Katz at Turin sold me my first "real" bike. A 1967 Falcon, don't remember the model, it was pretty basic but had some Campagnolo gear on it and was so much better than the old Schwinn Varsity! The braze-on stop on the downtube for the Campag shifter was missing, so the shifter would creep down. Dwight put his strength on that screw and it never did loosen up again!

If I remember correctly, Ike later had his own shop in Wheaton, Illinois. And racer Ron Boi (whose brother I had worked with) later had a shop just west of there in Winfield, Illinois.

I ordered a "UPS brown" Eisentraut back in mid '70's when Turin started to carry them. For some reason or another, I cancelled that. Later, around 1975, I bought a silver Coppi, which I still have, from Al Stiller's shop (at the time I didn't realize or appreciate what a gloried history in cycling Stiller (or Fausto Coppi!) had had).

Tom Barsh Houston, Texas USA tom@codeware.com


> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of
> marcus.e.helman@gm.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 8:01 AM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Was: Holy mackerel, 77 Masi Prestige Fiera, Now:
> holes in csbridge
>
>
> John Jorgenson wrote about seeing a frame with a hole running
> through the
> chainstay bridge. Dwight (Ike) Safter, who built frames at
> Turin Bicycle
> Co-op in Chicago in the 1970's made them like that. Local
> legend was that
> he been taught by Albert Eisentraut. The frames did look cool with a
> contrasting color inside the tube. Later I heard that a fair
> number had
> cracked at the bridge. I wonder how many frames he made. Has anybody
> heard of Safter frames?
>
> Marcus Helman
> Huntington Woods, MI