RE: [CR]Was 1983 cutoff, Now DON'T SELL THE LEGNANO!!!

From: "Ken Freeeman" <>
To: "'Chris Kane'" <>, <>
Subject: RE: [CR]Was 1983 cutoff, Now DON'T SELL THE LEGNANO!!!
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:38:06 -0500
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Dear Chris,

Don't sell the Legnano until you've got some of you chops back, and you know if you want to ride it! If you are concerned about damaging a collectible by riding it, know that many CR'ers ride bikes that old and older with regularity.

The bike shops may act as if anything steel is past it, but do they ride one? What you have cannot be easily replaced if you decide you regret the sale. Think three or four times!

Welcome back on the roads,

Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI

-----Original Message----- From: [] On Behalf Of Chris Kane Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 7:04 PM To: Subject: RE: [CR]Dale's CR 1983 cut-off date rationale

Ken, et al:

I'm new to this list, and very interested in reading this look-back issue of LeCycle, my minimal French language skills notwithstanding.

I'm just now getting back into bike riding, after an absence of seven years, and am debating whether or not to sell my 1971 Legnano Olimpiade Record, in exchange for a modern cycle.

So understanding the transformation that you refer to is of much interest to me. For example, what do you mean when you say, "... the microprocessed data Lance's team has become known for and successful at making use of"?

Chris Kane Irvine, CA

PS: Can you recommend a web site for this magazine, or other resource? I'm in Orange County, Southern California, and without the international book and magazine stores that I used to enjoy in New York City.

-----Original Message----- From: [] On Behalf Of Ken Wehrenberg Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 2:51 PM To: Subject: [CR]Dale's CR 1983 cut-off date rationale

French publication LeCycle's issue #339 recently was a 30 years commemoration, focusing on the cycling world from 1975 to the present. I would highly recommend a copy as there is really a lot in there for CR folk. I think the issue clarifies in my mind some of the reasons Dale has held fast to the 1983 date for the topicality of this list.

In 1975, Frenchman Bernard Thevenet won the Tour and the featured ride in the issue is Col de L'Izoard which he climbed with the 42 mated to 13-15-17-19-21-23 and these gears only after his team coach suggested this to him after a car trip up the day before. Highly different from the microprocessed data Lance's team has become known for and successful at making use of. For perspective: Thevenet's Tour win occurred just after Microsoft was created Apr 4, 1975. There are color photos with a lot of close-ups of the winning Peugeot when Thevenet won again in 1977. This was no rebadged Masi! 10.1 kg/22.3 lbs. Retrofriction levers.

Products in this anniversary issue have a decidedly retro bent: Marcarini's reissued (in Comforto fabric) Molteni and Peugeot jerseys, a toy car with wheels and bikes all over it-- the Mavic yellow and red diamond logo on the Service des Courses Renault, new Brooks Swallow, and "il cavatappi BIG"-- the way to toast 30 years with a wood-boxed Campagnolo corkscrew!

To make the CR timeline case for Dale, 1984 marks a time of many converging changes in the cycling world, technologically and otherwise. For example, Bernard Tapie diversifies his activity and ski fixations are transferred to pedals. And it wasn't just Look's white and black PP 65, but a tidal wave: Christol/Podio, Manalo and Bouchet. Two of the grand tours were won on these systems and clipless took the sport by storm. 1984 also saw Moser using the Rythmostat and Greg Lemond using the Avocet, first small multifunctional bike computer. Late '83 showed the Bell V1Pro, the first helmet of its type. Also new for '84: Michelin Bib TS 19 Pro, Mavic GP40, Shimano DuraAce 7400 6 speed cassette SIS, and the Sidi Revolution's first use of velcro.

Ken Wehrenberg, Hermann, MO