Apologies to the CR list,,, I meant to post my reply to Frame builders list but,,, Anyway, maybe it will be of interest here also. At least its on topic. Sorry, now on to the "other" list
Peter Weigle
Lyme Ct.
> Dave wrote:
> "I just don't believe, nor has it been my experience that one has to
> have a 1.125 fork or super heavy fork blades."
> __________
>
> I have to pile on with Dave & the gimp (eRichie broke some ribs so
> he's a gimp) here.
>
> If I were building a steel bike lugged bike for touring, then I'd just
> use OS tubes with a 1" steerer and cyclocross fork blades with a
> touring style crown. If I was going to run front panniers, then I'd
> also not slacken out the HTA too much and not run too much trail, I'd
> keep it in the normal road bike range (57-59mm). IMO, Panniers really
> slow down the front end of the bike and the steering gets too heavy
> with slack angles and big trail numbers. For frame tubes, I'd select
> from the thick end of the spectrum for TT and DT's to head off shimmy
> when riding loaded at speed (descending).
>
> Cheers!
> Don Ferris
> Anvil Bikeworks, Inc.
> Littleton, Colorado
> Ph: 303.471.7533 / 303.919.9073
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: framebuilders-bounces@phred.org
> [mailto:framebuilders-bounces@phred.org] On Behalf Of dave bohm
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:05 PM
> To: 'Andrew R Stewart'; jmedlockclay@nettally.com;
> framebuilders@phred.org
> Subject: RE: [Frame] Forks for touring bike
>
> I don't think I understand this totally loaded touring thing at all.
>
> This is the standard convention to recommend massive overkill on frame
> and fork, but Richie's advice would be my advice too and 1 inch fork
> would be fine as would a normal fork crown.
>
> To put this in perspective, I have had people comment about how loaded
> touring puts such stresses on frames, but I weigh 225lbs in bike gear
> and then have carried up to 35 additional pounds putting me at 255
> with
> my bike made with normal oversize tube and thicknesses. If this was
> an
> issue it would show here. I venture to guess that most loaded touring
> riders would not even match my weight with a light load.
>
> I just don't believe, nor has it been my experience that one has to
> have
> a 1.125 fork or super heavy fork blades.
>
> Dave Bohm
> Bohemian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: framebuilders-bounces@phred.org
> [mailto:framebuilders-bounces@phred.org] On Behalf Of Andrew R Stewart
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 6:39 PM
> To: jmedlockclay@nettally.com; framebuilders@phred.org
> Subject: Re: [Frame] Forks for touring bike
>
> John- Get the heaviest blades you can. I hope you'll be using a 1 1/8"
> steerer. Also OS main frame in a thicker gauge. Really, a few extra
> onces of
> frame weight will be unnoticed on a solid/secure bike laden with a
> touring
> load. Besides if you do any fun travelling the chance of the bike
> getting
> knocked about is likely. Andy S.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Clay" <jmedlockclay@nettally.com>
> To: <framebuilders@phred.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:25 PM
> Subject: [Frame] Forks for touring bike
>
>
>> I need experienced advice as to steel fork blade wall thickness to
> use
> for
> my camping bike.
>>
>> * 165#
>> * pavement, cobbles, offroad
>>
>> Not a racer or gonzo rider - just a middlin tourist. Front and rear
> panniers, loaded touring, 72 or 71 degree HT angle, 1.5" wide tires.
>>
>> What will flex enough but not too much?
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>> John Clay
>>
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