Re: [CR] Whats wrong with this picture??? 2 Rene Herse Porteurs

(Example: Framebuilders:Alberto Masi)

Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:37:03 +1300
Subject: Re: [CR] Whats wrong with this picture??? 2 Rene Herse Porteurs
From: "Wayne Davidson" <wayne.collect@xtra.co.nz>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <111920052149.24876.437F9DFB00021EB20000612C2209229927CE0D909F09@comcast.net>


Yes thats a good one, but what concerns me the most is the fact that all his bicycles are bidded on, mainly by newbies. One even has 9 bids, makes one sick. One tell tale sign I saw was the fact that all bikes are phographed differently, A German seller, selling in GBP and the bicycles are in China, cripes if this does not send out warnings thought to bidders well they deserved to be taken........regards wayne davidson Invercargill NZ......

on 20/11/05 10:49 AM, gpvb1@comcast.net at gpvb1@comcast.net wrote:
> Check out one of the other bikes, which has a high bidder named
> "warning**scammer**" - I like that! If you check that person's ID history,
> it's pretty interesting. Glad there are hacker-hunters out there doing good
> work.
> Greg Parker
> Ann Arbor, Michigan
>
> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 11:56:00 -0800
> From: joel metz <magpie@blackbirdsf.org>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re:Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 11:56:00 -0800
> From: joel metz <magpie@blackbirdsf.org>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]CR Whats wrong with this picture??? 2 Rene Herse Porteurs
> on E-Bay
>
> actually looks like a hacked account - low feedback, but all
> positive, no bikes in previous sales - and now a rash of bikes
> shipping from china (or is it the uk?), a good portion of which look
> suspiciously deal-priced, on 1-day auctions as a snatch and grab
> before ebay can react. looks like 2 people have already taken the
> bait, too.
>
> -joel
>
> At 11:47 -0800 11.19.2005, Dan Kehew wrote:
>> And I'm guessing seller #2's not the real user of that account,
>> who's not in China but rather in Germany. Look at feedback, and it
>> appears all their buying, selling, and "item located at" info is
>> from German locations -- until now. Let's also note that the China
>> auction is a 1-day listing. Blech. -- Dan Kehew, Davis CA
>>
>> same bike, photoshopped background on the bogus china auction:
>>
>>
>> http://ebay.com/<blah
>> y.
> com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7198298387
>>
>> the original, and actual sale, from a reputable seller, is here:
>>
>> http://ebay.com/<blah
>> y.
> com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7197272693
>
>
> actually looks like a hacked account - low feedback, but all
> positive, no bikes in previous sales - and now a rash of bikes
> shipping from china (or is it the uk?), a good portion of which look
> suspiciously deal-priced, on 1-day auctions as a snatch and grab
> before ebay can react. looks like 2 people have already taken the
> bait, too.
>
> -joel
>
> At 11:47 -0800 11.19.2005, Dan Kehew wrote:
>> And I'm guessing seller #2's not the real user of that account,
>> who's not in China but rather in Germany. Look at feedback, and it
>> appears all their buying, selling, and "item located at" info is
>> from German locations -- until now. Let's also note that the China
>> auction is a 1-day listing. Blech. -- Dan Kehew, Davis CA
>>
>> same bike, photoshopped background on the bogus china auction: