Hi Mark,
I have an orphan tire that matches the one in your Pino wheelset photo.
Clement CF 2001/T 13C. Unused. To me it looked like a skinny tubular that
fit a clincher rim since it has a "bead" and internal tube. Happy to trade
it for other old bike parts.
Fred
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Fred Yavorsky
Jenkintown, PA
fred@twistcomm.com
http://twistcomm.com/
> From: <FujiFish1@aol.com>
> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:23:53 EST
> To: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Cc: <crawdad1959@yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Re: [CR] "Pino" wheels - Now: the tri-nutted version
>
> Ah, now this type of Pino Morroni wheel, I have photos of! The basic idea
> (don't shoot me if I'm way off here) is that when under weight load, a wheel
> will compress or ovalize just a bit as it is turning, and that in that moment,
> the spoke in the "flattest" section of the oval sides will be momentarily left
> loose, and able to lose true. In addition, an oval wheel is not as fast or
> smooth as a round one. In this way of nutting on both sides of the rim, the
> wheel cannot come out of round. Something like that anyway.
>
> I think the tire was specially made to fit the unusual rim contact area, but
> I can't recall for sure ... still working on putting together notes, and they
> are not in front of me. When the crude photos were taken, I tried to pull
> back the tire to show the underside, but it was on too tight!!! It is
> however,
> very easy to see the nuts on both ends of the spokes, but the nuts inside the
> wheel cannot be seen ... just a recess that one of the nuts sits in:
> http://www.wooljersey.com/
>
> Ciao,
> Mark Agree
> Southfield MI
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>
>
> In a message dated 11/22/2005 9:30:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> sleitgen@charter.net writes:
> One of Pino's setups had spokes threaded at both ends. The one end
> threaded into the hub flange and the other had what appeared to be
> spoke nipples threaded inside and out. The nipples had a lock nut that
> pressed against the outside of the rim. Hope I got that right. I'm
> dealing with 25 year old memories. Behringer had a pair hanging in his
> shop. Must have been a bugger to true.
>
> On an aside I doubt that the red Pino bike is a Titanium Pin-Behr.
> Cecil always said when they vacu-brazed the frames they back filled the
> furnace with Nitrogen. It gave the Titanium a surface layer of Titanium
> Nitride. (The same stuff found on premium drill bits). This made the
> bikes a gold color. A real bugger to get paint to stick to it. He also
> preferred 3-2.5 Titanium. It was easier to braze.
>
> Steve Leitgen
> La Crosse, WI
>
>
> On Nov 22, 2005, at 8:10 AM, Neil Crawford wrote:
>
>> I had a pino seat post in the late 70's realy light. Tell me about his
>> wheel building with the lock nuts on the spoke nipples. The guy was
>> way ahead of his time.
>>
>> Crawdad