Re: [CR]Need a timeline lesson

Example: Production Builders

From: "Martin Appel" <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Need a timeline lesson
Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:35:25 +0100
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please see the picture of the rear dropout on my 1951 Girardengo. The Name of the Lug maker has been filed off during a rechroming job. I guess it is a Simplex (The Dropouts on the fork are) but trust me, the dropout is the original one, i personally scratched the original paint off it.

Question @Listmembers: possibly one of the oldest frames out there with this style dropout?

other frame details: Fork crown: Headlugs: Seat clamp (clamp itself modernized)


Martin Appel, Munich, Germany schrieb:
>When did rear derailleur hangers come into play. I have seen recently
>several bikes listed on ebay as being from the 50s with hangers and it
>does not sit well with me yet. Perhaps I just need more education.


>Ray Homiski

>Elizabeth, NJ