Re: [CR]ebay outing: claude butler track frame


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From: "Michael Francis Butler" <michaelbutler@fastmail.fm>
To: "David Benson" <bensondoc@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: [CR]ebay outing: claude butler track frame
In-Reply-To: <20051107204553.76288.qmail@web34502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 13:13:49 -0800
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cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

David, That makes it definitely 1951. Sod it three years out close guess for a 1950's movie actress age but not that clever for a frame. Cheers Mick who is older than the frame!

On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 07:45:53 +1100 (EST), "David Benson" <bensondoc@yahoo.com.au> said:
> Mick,
> I'm already onto it.
> Serial number is
> 511
> 2316 or 2138
>
> DB
> Ak, NZ
>
> Michael Francis Butler <michaelbutler@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> Hello Galen,
> This CB looks very much like a circa 1954 Road track model. Note the
> mudguard eyes, road forks with lamp bracket, Olympic ring ST transfers
> which tend to appear post 1954. If you really want to be certain ask the
> seller for the frame number and this will date it spot on.
> My guess is just a stab in the dark.
> Best wishes Mick butler Hunts UK.
>
>
> On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 15:02:19 -0800, "galen pewtherer"
> said:
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/CLAUD-BUTLER-LUGLESS-TRACK-FRAME_W0QQitemZ719500742 0Q
> Qc
> > ategoryZ22679QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> >
> > it's listed as a track frame, and the measurements seem to bear that
> > out (st is 24.5" and tt is 22") but it's drilled for front and rear
> > brakes.
> >
> > (i wondered initially if it was a path racer, but from other posts to
> > the list i've gathered that path racers tend to have tt's that are
> > longer than the st. i'd be interested in hearing any comments about
> > the reason for that, if anyone cares to weigh in).
> >
> > from what little i know of british this was normal for the time, is
> > that correct?
> >
> > usual disclaimers apply: no relation to seller, i was out of town that
> > weekend, it must have been that other fellow who looks like me, etc.
> >
> > galen pewtherer
> > san francisco, ca