Re: [CR]Fake World Logo Hoods & fake decals - beware

Example: Racing

Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:16:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Raymond Dobbins <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Fake World Logo Hoods & fake decals - beware
To: Classic Rendezvous Bike List <>
In-Reply-To: <>

i never saw the repops from the outfit that got shut down - what was the quality like? could you tell right away that they were not originals? if so what gave them away?

what about the repops that greg parker brought up - has anyone seen those? greg?

ray dobbins
miami florida

--- wrote:

> Kurt wrote:


\r?\n> <<...If the quality and the price are up to the buyer's standard and

\r?\n> no

\r?\n> one is being lied to I see no harm... >>


\r?\n> Hmmm. Well, I guess the question of ethics and the seller's integrity


\r?\n> is easily answered by the question: "Would these hoods sell for $69.

\r?\n> -79. if the buyers knew that they were reproductions?"


\r?\n> The seller, if these are in fact repop hoods, is attempting to

\r?\n> deceive

\r?\n> by purposeful omission and hoping by doing, that that buyers will

\r?\n> assume that the hoods are original and genuine and pay the inflated

\r?\n> price.


\r?\n> Another question is, will the seller answer inquiries as to the hoods


\r?\n> authenticity?


\r?\n> Finally, how does anyone know the quality level if it's a

\r?\n> reproduction?

\r?\n> The Campy quality is certainly a known factor (For better or worse)

\r?\n> How

\r?\n> does one know that, after paying $80 pair, if they might melt away in

\r?\n> 6

\r?\n> weeks?


\r?\n> Dale Brown

\r?\n> Greensboro, NC USA




\r?\n> -----Original Message-----

\r?\n> From: Kurt Sperry <>

\r?\n> To:

\r?\n> Cc: classic list <>

\r?\n> Sent: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:07:30 -0800

\r?\n> Subject: Re: [CR]Fake World Logo Hoods & fake decals - beware


\r?\n> Obviously the seller, given the legal climate, couldn't explicitly


\r?\n> state

\r?\n> that the hoods are repros or originals, just as the sellers of repro

\r?\n> decals

\r?\n> generally won't. They are what they are, take them or leave them. If

\r?\n> the

\r?\n> quality and the price are up to the buyer's standard and no one is

\r?\n> being

\r?\n> lied to I see no harm- particularly as Campagnolo have no interest in

\r?\n> servicing this market with their own product and their interests in

\r?\n> preventing their sale are strictly on the narrowest legalistic

\r?\n> copyright

\r?\n> issues that have nothing whatever to do with unfair competition in

\r?\n> the

\r?\n> marketplace. While perhaps illegal I see nothing unethical in it, the


\r?\n> two o

\r?\n> f

\r?\n> course being only distantly related...

\r?\n> Kurt Sperry

\r?\n> Bellingham


\r?\n> >

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > Playing the devil's advocate here...

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > Some time ago, Campy closed down an outfit that was making

\r?\n> globe-logo

\r?\n> > hoods. If someone has resumed making these, perhaps they fear that

\r?\n> > labeling them as reproductions will bring Campy's lawyers down on

\r?\n> them?

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > If they don't mention that they're reproductions perhaps they have

\r?\n> a

\r?\n> > better chance of continuing to produce them?

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > --

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > -John Thompson (

\r?\n> > Appleton WI USA

\r?\n> > --

\r?\n> >