[CR] Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 36, Issue 14 Lugged and welded frames

(Example: Framebuilders:Cecil Behringer)

From: <Crumpy6204@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 13:02:36 EST
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: [CR] Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 36, Issue 14 Lugged and welded frames

I had a 1948 Holdsworth LaQuelda frame, that according to the web site was named after Arc Welder, tool used to make the frame, the Holdsworth website also brings out, I think, a good point why welding frames was used, The angles of the frame could be anything you wanted and not restriced by lug angles etc???, this kind of makes sense to me. I remember in the late 40s having a frame made by a builder in Tysley, Birmingham near the old BSA factory, he did a lot of welded frames, I do think it was a bit lighter than the lugged frames that I had and it did SEEMED?? to ride better and handle better, I think I had
   it built with 73 head and 71 seat angles, my lugged frames all where 72 seat and head angles. I also remember that some chaps with welded frames did have problems with the welds?? and went back to lugged frames. Regarding past CRs about Jack VanGent and the Big Wheel Bike shop on Holly Street in Denver, Co I did buy several frames from him, he sold Legnanos, I still have a 1970s Olympic, he also sold Libertas, my wife still has her Libertas Mixtie bike with Ofmega Equipment, still rides fine, Jack and his brother Chris, who I think has passed away where fine people and very pleasant to deal with, he put out catalouges, that I wsh I had kept with all Campag and Ofmega equip in, very concise, I also understand that Jack is not in good health at this time, I wish him all the best, he also opened a shop on Leetdate drive in Denver
   and tried selling mountain bike for time, John Crump Oldbrit, Parker Co.USA