[CR]Herlp with PX-10

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From: "Ezra Butterfield" <ezpray4snow@hotmail.com>
To: servadio@mail.df.unipi.it, jdecruyenaere@planning.co.la.ca.us
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 12:06:44 -0800
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: [CR]Herlp with PX-10

Came across a 76 Peugeot PX-10 with everyhting original besides the seat. Good condition with a few chips in the paint here and there. What would be an asking price for this bike? Thanks.

Ezra


>From: Sergio SERVADIO <servadio@mail.df.unipi.it>
>To: "Decruyenaere, Joseph" <jdecruyenaere@planning.co.la.ca.us>
>CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Re: [CR]was Masi...Legend or Marketing Genius; now Faggin
>Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 16:24:02 +0100 (CET)
>
>And about Faggin, I mean the great Leandro Faggin, I was told he used
>to visit Antonio Taverna's shop, where, by the way, you can admire some
>photographs of Leandro in action.
>I must ask Antonio who built those Faggin frames ... .
>
>Sergio
>Pisa
>Italia
>
>On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Decruyenaere, Joseph wrote:
>
> > Jim's description of those Masis reminds me of a Faggin frame and fork I
> > bought recently. It's well constructed, but the paint is thin and
> > spattery and the lack of clear coat has encouraged the fraying of some
> > of the nekkid decals. Plus, a couple of the decals suffer from the same
> > syndrome that you sometimes see in badly printed funny pages, where the
> > different color layers don't overlay properly. It's a bit of shame too,
> > because the frame has some nice details -- lots of engraving and chromed
> > fork, stays and dropout faces -- you'd think the paint should have got
> > the same kind of attention.
> >
> > Joe Decruyenaere
> > South Pasadena, California
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> > [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Jim Allen
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 7:02 AM
> > To: BobHoveyGa@aol.com
> > Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Subject: Re: [CR]Masi...Legend or Marketing Genius
> >
> > BobHoveyGa@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Sergio;
> > >
> > >It is good to hear that Billato builds nice frames. But I must wonder
> > if
> > >the ones that the connoisseurs value so much in Italy are of the same
> > quality
> > >as those sent to the USA to become Masi's lowest and next-to-lowest
> > models.
> > >The first group or two that were sent over here were so bad that they
> > could
> > >not be sold as Masis... I believe they had to be disposed of at a loss
> >
> > >somewhere (probably Ted Kirkbride or Jim Allen could tell you more
> > about this).
> > >After the problems with the initial batch(es) were ironed out, the
> > Billato-built
> > >Nuova Strada and Gran Corsa became known as serviceable and reasonably
> > priced
> > >frames, but I don't believe they were ever prized for their beauty or
> > >collectability. I like my Gran Corsa's ride qualities a great deal
> > but I would be
> > >very surprised if any part of that frame had ever seen a file.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Bob,
> >
> > I don't know for certain that the initial shipment was built by Billato.
> >
> > I do remember that they were spec'ed not be Ted, but by Randy @ High
> > Country Imports, the then distributor for Masi.
> >
> > They were not poorly made, but the paint and decals just weren't up to
> > snuff - vinyl top mounted stuff. I still have a box of them somewhere!
> >
> > We stripped the decals off the frames and resold them to Euro Asia. As I
> >
> > recall, the only engraving were the letter "M" engraved on the brake
> > bridge and the fork crowns. They were constructed of Columbus Aelle R.
> > The telltale on these frames was the double taper seat stays and the
> > internal fork crown.
> >
> > We later saw or heard occasional reports of some of these frames being
> > repainted elsewhere and sold as Gran Criteriums.
> >
> > Jim Allen
> > the CycleSmiths
> > Ranchita, CA