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From: "brian blum" <bbspokes@lycos.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 13:03:56 -0800
cc: rhawks@lmi.net
Subject: [CR]None

I acquired a 22.5cm mid 60's Cinelli SC in beat condition with rust primer and grey paint 5 years ago. I saw it in front of the library in Berkeley an d tracked down the owner. He was going to spread the rear triangle to 130mm and make it an 18 sp. I offered to build an 18 sp to his taste for trade. I had a late 70's 531 22.5" blue metallic Trek frame model unknown which I built up for trade. Turned out the top tube seat tube, chain stay, wheelba se, and bottom bracket height were all identical to the Cinelli. I don't me asure angles well but I bet they matched. Trek might have copied the geomet ry? Brian Blum in Berkeley

From: rhawks@lmi.net To: classics rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Geometry of mid 60s Cinellis Message-ID: <1133985518.43973eee28be0@webmail.lmi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 2

I searched the archives for some mention of this, but I only found passing references that used the word geometry in a non-specific way. I didn't find any hard numbers for seat tube angles, head tube angles, fork rake offset, trail, etc.

So I have a couple questions. Does anyone know a source for these numbers for say a mid 60s Cinelli SC? Was there a set of standards that Cinelli built to, or were these things fluid and changing all the time so that no two 57 cm 1965 SC's had the same seat tube angles, or head tube angles?

rob hawks
richmond, ca