Re: [CR]Was dating Zeus, now Reynolds A tubing...

(Example: Racing:Beryl Burton)

Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:06:24 -0500
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Subject: Re: [CR]Was dating Zeus, now Reynolds A tubing...
To: robertrreid@tiscali.co.uk, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


Good work, Bob! Thanks

Dale Brown Greensboro, NC USA

-----Original Message----- From: Bob Reid <robertrreid@tiscali.co.uk> To: CR List <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:27:12 +0000

You are right - it doesn't mean anything. Obviously my word's not good enough :-) so here's some factual evidence.

1928 advert by a Scottish framebuilder ; "...Built personally by John Hamilton with Reynold's Special High Manganese Butted tubes. These tubes are two gauges lighter and are 25 per cent stronger than the usual A quality butted tubes." (Just to prove their were weight weenies as well, his H.M. Road Racing model weighed (fully assembled) 17.3/4 lbs (8.05kg) in 1937 and it survives today in a museum in glasgow c/w his own handmade cantilever front brake)

Reynolds publication from 1937? (Courtesy of Chuck.S) quotes three grades for comparison. "A Quality", H.M. and 531.

An article from a 1947 CTC mag (copy on my website at http://www.flying-scot.co.uk/frame_dtl_pages/lightweight.html mention 'A', 'B' 'H.M.' and '531'

Brown Brothers Catalogue from 1952, gives tubes for sale in the same three grades. A Quality, H.M. and 531.

Okay so here are the "facts"

--- 'A' grade did exist pre-war (at least before 1928)

--- 531 did not replace H.M. High Manganese, or even 'A' quality in Reynolds product range as late as 1952.

As far as transfers go, the earliest Reynolds example (gold on black) was for High Manganese on a 1937 Sun Wasp.

Bob Reid (I don't make this stuff up) Stonehaven Scotland

http://www.flying-scot.co.uk (mapped)

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