Has anyone ever heard of a chromed frame cracking or breaking due to Hydrogen embrittlement? It's a stress reaction the metal experiences during the nickel plating phase of the chroming process. Also, what's your take on the merits of the use of "Frame Saver?"
Kurt Cupertino, CA
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1. More gaul 2. Re: Carly Gaul Chainset (Michael Butler) 3. Re: Charly Gaul??? (Neill Currie) 4. Re: calling Norman Hellman ... (Mike Schmidt) 5. Re: sugino crank question
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Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:35:53 +0000 From: j.mccoin@comcast.net To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]More gaul Message-ID: <122420051835.5157.43AD9509000182D20000142522007347480207010C0C03D206@comcas t.net> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 1
I just took a look at the CR Main site, I looked up Magistroni, there is a Daniel Rebour drawing of the crankset that Gaul won the Tour on. A three arm steel crank with TA style adapter with TA style rings. The mystery continues.
Jim McCoin Fremont Ca.
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Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:47:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Butler <pariscycles@yahoo.co.uk> To: CR Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR] Re: Carly Gaul Chainset Message-ID: <20051224184733.16367.qmail@web25307.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 2
Have had a look through my old pictures and I am sure
its a three arm Stronglight cottered steel chainset on
Simplex rings, the type with the three arm bolt on
adaptors which give a six point fixing at the rings.
The Official Tour de France Centennial book has some
wonderful shots of Charly Gaul on this very set up
pp.183, pp.187.
Or you might be able to find it on this link which is
very interesting.
http://procycling.lequipe.fr/
Merry Christmas and lots of luck and laughter to you all in the New Year.
Thats all for now. Keep those wheels spinning, in your memories if not still on the road. Be lucky Mick Butler Huntingdon UK.
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Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 13:53:35 -0500 From: Neill Currie <neill_currie@comcast.net> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, aldoross4@siscom.net Subject: [CR]Re: Charly Gaul??? Message-ID: <20051224135335.9683.neill_currie@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <MONKEYFOODMsbuBq4la00002d1e@monkeyfood.nt.phred.org> References: <MONKEYFOODMsbuBq4la00002d1e@monkeyfood.nt.phred.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3
Maybe my eyes are getting old, but isnt one pic of a TA 6 or 5 pin crank....depending how you view or count these things.....and the other pic seems to be a TA 3 armer.
Neill Currie Emerald Drive Hillsborough Nh 03244 USA --- Neill Currie neill_currie@comcast.net ------------------------------
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 13:58:43 -0500 From: "Mike Schmidt" <mdschmidt@patmedia.net> To: "Rich Pinder" <rpinder@usc.edu>, "classic" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: Re: [CR]calling Norman Hellman ... Message-ID: <003a01c608bc$100b7ce0$6401a8c0@patmedia.net> References: <43AD7B96.4010608@usc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4
Nino is a New York guy an member of BVVW. nhell39123@aol.com try this
Mike Schmidt Stirling, NJ
It s about 50F here, yay - let's ride
> Following another lead on the Tommasini, does anyone know a way to
> contact Norman Hellman, who lives (possibly) in Pennsylvania ??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rich Pinder
> Van Nuys, CA
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 8:42:48 +1300 From: <wayne.collect@xtra.co.nz> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: Re: [CR] sugino crank question Message-ID: <20051224194248.CGYB1416.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@[202.27.184.228]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5
Hi all, after reading Gregs comments I agreed, would seem better to leave
them French threaded for another person one day, if you ever go to sell
them, of coarse would also depend on how much you have to spend on getting a
set of French threaded pedals, I have no idea what they are worth as all my
pedals are 9/16".....regards wayne davidson Invers NZ,, about to enjoy Xmas
meal soon, but having marmite on toast for breakfast....
> From: "C. Andrews" <chasds@mindspring.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]sugino crank question
>
> I'm attempting to put an old Gitane TDF into riding shape
> for a friend, and the poor thing really was trashed.
>
> It apparently came spec'd with a Sugino Mighty crank (the
> first-gen Campy knock-off). There are no pedals. The
> cranks are stamped: 47.8 171 M14.
>
> I cannot get a pair of standard BSC threaded pedals into
> them. Is it possible that Gitane spec'd japanese cranks
> with french pedal threading? Only the French would do
> something that demented... the threads look ok...not
> ruined..
>
> Any insights into this problem would be appreciated. Most
> unfortunately, I have no Sugino cranks around here right
> now, and I don't want to waste a set of Record cranks on
> this one..
>
> Thanks.
>
> Charles Andrews
> SoCal
>
> Charles:
> I think the "M14" is a strong clue....
> M14 x 1.25, that is! (At least Sugino was nice enough to clearly mark
them).
> Nothing that a good set of 9/16" x 20 taps won't easily correct, however.
(Mon Dieu! I can hear the Francophiles saying that quietly, to themselves).
There are also lots of French-threaded NOS pedals out there, available from
me or several others.
> Greg "but of course, monsieur!" Parker
> L'Ann Arbor, Michigan
>
>
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