Re: [CR]re: chromed frame cracking or breaking due to

(Example: Framebuilding)

Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 17:57:05 -0700
From: "Mitch Harris" <mitch.harris@gmail.com>
To: hsachs@alumni.rice.edu
Subject: Re: [CR]re: chromed frame cracking or breaking due to
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Highest recommendation for Weigle's Framesaver. Sets up to a stable waxy bu t not sticky coating. I use it on all my bikes. One reason I'm confident in i t is that I use it to protect frame and suspension parts of my Jeep, which sees rough use in the mountains. Framesaver offers very durable protection. I have a Hi-Lift Jack that catches all the road and trail debris where it rides on a bumper, and it shows no rust despite having not much paint left and only Framesaver to protect if from salt. I only recoat it with Framesaver every few years so the stuff does stay in place. Only complaint is that it's not offered in larger cans. It's also hard to find where I live.

Mitch Harris Back in the US now, Little Rock Canyon, Utah.

On 12/25/05, Harvey M Sachs <sachshm@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Kurt _____ asks:
>
> Has anyone ever heard of a chromed frame cracking or breaking due to
> Hydrogen embrittlement? It's a stress reaction the metal experiences
> during
> the nickel plating phase of the chroming process. Also, what's your take
> on
> the merits of the use of "Frame Saver?"
> +++++++++++++++++++++++
> I had one chromed Paramount develop a transverse crack ~2 cm long across
> the top tube, ~ 1 cm behind the back end of the head lug. Schwinn repair ed
> under warranty, and gave me my choice of color - but they would not (and
> Waterford still won't) rechrome. It may be the only Paramount in captivit y
> with chromed seat stay eyes and chain stays, but not chromed head lugs. : -)
> I still have, ride, and love the bike.
> I am not in a position to say whether the failure was due to hydrogen
> embrittlement, but such failures were not unheard of.
>
> As far as using Frame-Saver is concerned, I am impressed that some pretty
> authoritative people are recommending its use. I have had one experience
> with a rechromed stay that corroded from the inside, so I would certainly
> use FrameSaver or equivalent on chromed bikes today. Even if it were no
> more than an amulet to ward off the evil rustie spirits, seems small pric e
> ($, grams) to pay in protection. Disclosure: I might be biased. I trust
> Peter Weigle completely, and have one of his bikes. He bribed me by givin g
> me some to use, in a different transaction. :-) Easy to use.
>
> May the blessings of the season help all of us become better people.

>

> harvey sachs

> mcLean va.