As I said, you're entitled to your opinion. I'm also entitled to mine. Richard has his as well, although he doesn't participate in this list any longer.
Greg Parker
Ann Arbor, Michigan
> I wouldn't put our "opinions" in the same realm unless you've painted a
\r?\n> few hundred frames with the stuff and closely inspected thousands of
\r?\n> others. If you're going to weigh everybody's "opinion" the same does
\r?\n> my "opinion" on matters framebuilding carry the same weight as
\r?\n> e-RICHIE's? I've seen a lot of crap powder jobs just as I have liquid
\r?\n> and I can tell you it's all in the application not in the media.
\r?\n> best,
\r?\n> Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
\r?\n> been there and done that
\r?\n> in Vancouver, BC
\r?\n>
\r?\n> On Thursday, Dec 29, 2005, at 10:59 US/Pacific, gpvb1@comcast.net wrote:
\r?\n>
\r?\n> > Your opinions are your opinions. I'm more than happy to stand by what
\r?\n> > I said on the subject. Great for hardware and such, not so great for
\r?\n> > vintage steel bicycles, IMHO.
\r?\n> > Greg Parker
\r?\n> > Ann Arbor, Michigan
\r?\n> > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:12:17 -0800
\r?\n> > From: Brandon Ives
\r?\n> > To: "usgeigers"
\r?\n> > Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
\r?\n> > Subject: Re: [CR] powder coating vs. wet paint
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > First off let me say there is nothing wrong with powdercoating a
\r?\n> > classic bike. Like all paint and related techniques things progress
\r?\n> > everyday. Personally, these days, I find powdercoating a superior way
\r?\n> > of painting. My main two reasons are that it's more durable and much
\r?\n> > more environmentally friendly. The only time you'll see corrosion
\r?\n> > under the paint is if it wasn't prepped well and doesn't have anything
\r?\n> > to do with the paint layer itself. If you don't think spider-webbing
\r?\n> > doesn't happen with liquid paint I'll send you a picture of my big-name
\r?\n> > custom painted Imron OT frame with it happening. People have also
\r?\n> > talked about removal being a pain. The only person that should care is
\r?\n> > the painter not the customer. From the customers end 'hard to remove'
\r?\n> > is a benefit, not a problem. As far as lug edges disappearing under
\r?\n> > the powder that is just poor painting technique. My wife's multi-layer
\r?\n> > powder job I did on her bike 5 years ago is thinner, clearer, and
\r?\n> > cleaner than the paint liquid Trek put on it in the '70s.
\r?\n> > Powdercoating has come a long way in the last 10 years, so if you
\r?\n> > haven't given it a look in that time please do so. Ignorance is no
\r?\n> > excuse so check out:
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > best,
\r?\n> > Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
\r?\n> > Vancouver, BC
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > On Thursday, Dec 29, 2005, at 00:16 US/Pacific, usgeigers wrote:
\r?\n> >> I'm a man who listens for tid-bits of good advice and massive amounts
\r?\n> >> of
\r?\n> >> wisdom. I am re-thinking the powder coat idea and am now looking into
\r?\n> >> spray
\r?\n> >> paint pricing and lead-time. Thank you both!