Re: [CR] powder coating vs. wet paint

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From: <gpvb1@comcast.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] powder coating vs. wet paint
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:48:27 +0000


As I said, you're entitled to your opinion. I'm also entitled to mine. Richard has his as well, although he doesn't participate in this list any longer.

Greg Parker
Ann Arbor, Michigan


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From: Brandon Ives

> I wouldn't put our "opinions" in the same realm unless you've painted a

\r?\n> few hundred frames with the stuff and closely inspected thousands of

\r?\n> others. If you're going to weigh everybody's "opinion" the same does

\r?\n> my "opinion" on matters framebuilding carry the same weight as

\r?\n> e-RICHIE's? I've seen a lot of crap powder jobs just as I have liquid

\r?\n> and I can tell you it's all in the application not in the media.

\r?\n> best,

\r?\n> Brandon"monkeyman"Ives

\r?\n> been there and done that

\r?\n> in Vancouver, BC

\r?\n>

\r?\n> On Thursday, Dec 29, 2005, at 10:59 US/Pacific, gpvb1@comcast.net wrote:

\r?\n>

\r?\n> > Your opinions are your opinions. I'm more than happy to stand by what

\r?\n> > I said on the subject. Great for hardware and such, not so great for

\r?\n> > vintage steel bicycles, IMHO.

\r?\n> > Greg Parker

\r?\n> > Ann Arbor, Michigan

\r?\n> > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:12:17 -0800

\r?\n> > From: Brandon Ives

\r?\n> > To: "usgeigers"

\r?\n> > Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

\r?\n> > Subject: Re: [CR] powder coating vs. wet paint

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > First off let me say there is nothing wrong with powdercoating a

\r?\n> > classic bike. Like all paint and related techniques things progress

\r?\n> > everyday. Personally, these days, I find powdercoating a superior way

\r?\n> > of painting. My main two reasons are that it's more durable and much

\r?\n> > more environmentally friendly. The only time you'll see corrosion

\r?\n> > under the paint is if it wasn't prepped well and doesn't have anything

\r?\n> > to do with the paint layer itself. If you don't think spider-webbing

\r?\n> > doesn't happen with liquid paint I'll send you a picture of my big-name

\r?\n> > custom painted Imron OT frame with it happening. People have also

\r?\n> > talked about removal being a pain. The only person that should care is

\r?\n> > the painter not the customer. From the customers end 'hard to remove'

\r?\n> > is a benefit, not a problem. As far as lug edges disappearing under

\r?\n> > the powder that is just poor painting technique. My wife's multi-layer

\r?\n> > powder job I did on her bike 5 years ago is thinner, clearer, and

\r?\n> > cleaner than the paint liquid Trek put on it in the '70s.

\r?\n> > Powdercoating has come a long way in the last 10 years, so if you

\r?\n> > haven't given it a look in that time please do so. Ignorance is no

\r?\n> > excuse so check out:

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > best,

\r?\n> > Brandon"monkeyman"Ives

\r?\n> > Vancouver, BC

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > On Thursday, Dec 29, 2005, at 00:16 US/Pacific, usgeigers wrote:

\r?\n> >> I'm a man who listens for tid-bits of good advice and massive amounts

\r?\n> >> of

\r?\n> >> wisdom. I am re-thinking the powder coat idea and am now looking into

\r?\n> >> spray

\r?\n> >> paint pricing and lead-time. Thank you both!