[CR]Stems that look like pivo but share hollowed extension.

(Example: Humor:John Pergolizzi)

From: "Howard Darr" <hdarr@localnet.com>
To: "Jerome & Elizabeth Moos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>, "Daniel Artley" <dartley@co.ba.md.us>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <20060113235722.52721.qmail@web81102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:09:38 -0500
Subject: [CR]Stems that look like pivo but share hollowed extension.

My stem in question has a closed end where the stem bolt goes through but is hollow, as opposed to an open end. It also has the bolt for the handlebar in front of the bar instead of underneath it . There is no pivo or ava markings. The extension is about 100 mm. What say the esteemed group, go or no go?

----- Original Message -----
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos
To: Daniel Artley
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]Pivo Stems?

> As I said earlier, These old "faux lugged" alloy stems by AVA, Pivo and
> others, look so much alike to me that I suspect a single manufacturer made
> them all for the various companies. Don't know why AVA takes most of the
> grief. Maybe because they were best know in America through the
> AVA-marked stems on the Peugeot PX-10. Pivot did make a model that looked
> a little different, which has a "bulge" near the top of the expander bolt,
> i.e it is thicker in that area. Maybe that was an area where earlier
> models had failed.
> Regards,
> Jerry Moos
> Daniel Artley <dartley@co.ba.md.us> wrote:
> All this talk of the AVA death stems reminds me of Pivo stems that look
> almost identical, yet I never hear anything about them. Are they much
> more reliable and as collectible? I've got at least one in the parts
> bins. I've always thought they were nice looking stems, but most of my
> really old stems are too short a reach for me anymore.
> Dan Artley in Parkton, MD