Re: [CR]Bike mechanic insanity


Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:56:51 -0500
From: oroboyz@aol.com
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Subject: Re: [CR]Bike mechanic insanity
To: smwillis@verizon.net, wheelman@nac.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


<< I was taught that by the builder from Silk Hope fame. But I forget is it MacLean? >>

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-----Original Message----- From: The Bike Stand <smwillis@verizon.net> To: oroboyz@aol.com; wheelman@nac.net; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:49:04 -0500 Subject: Re: [CR]Bike mechanic insanity

My tool of choice is a chrome plated socket nice and smooth and I have a lot of different size to see what fits best. I was taught that by the builder from Silk Hope fame. But I forget is it MacLean? Steven Willis The Bike Stand 1778 East Second Street Scotch Plains NJ 07076 908-322-3330 http://www.thebikestand.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <oroboyz@aol.com> To: <smwillis@verizon.net>; <wheelman@nac.net>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [CR]Bike mechanic insanity

> <<... And, do not tell anybody but we might be able to dimple in the right > chainstay some too. >>
   >
    > OK, Steve, you are on my s___ list!!! You simply cannot go around giving > away trade secrets like that to these naive consumers....Well, well, it's > not kosher!!!
   >
    > Actually my favorite "tool" for putting a gentle divot in the RH chain > stay for that tiny chainring clearance is a nice hard wood broom handle. > Just lay that round handle, at a right angle of course, on the spot where > a skosh more space is needed and give the broom handle a nice whallop with > a hammer. Never even disturbs the dust. Haven't cracked the paint yet.....
   >
   > Dale Brown
   > cycles de ORO, Inc.
   > 1410 Mill Street
   > Greensboro, NC 27408 USA
   > 336-274-5959
   > http://www.cyclesdeoro.com
   > http://www.classicrendezvous.com
    > Giant, Specialized, Orbea, Bianchi, Felt, Litespeed, Landshark, Colnago, > Townie and other exotica.
   > National Bicycle Dealers Association Board member
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: The Bike Stand <smwillis@verizon.net>
   > To: wheelman@nac.net; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
   > Sent: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 09:03:44 -0500
   > Subject: Re: [CR]Bike mechanic insanity
   >
    > Hi Ray, Bring it in I can put a small washer under the fixed cup to get > you a little more room. And, do not tell anybody but we might be able to > dimple in the right chainstay some too.
   > Steven Willis
   > The Bike Stand
   > 1778 East Second Street
   > Scotch Plains NJ 07076
   > 908-322-3330
   > http://www.thebikestand.com
   > ----- Original Message ----- From: <wheelman@nac.net>
   > To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
   > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:43 PM
   > Subject: [CR]Bike mechanic insanity
   >
    > > Wonder why more early bike mechanics have not committed suicide. I'll > be
    > > first to admit that I am a novice at this but if every business was run
    > > like the road bike business was, there would be a lot more waste and
    > > expense then necessary. The lack of standardization always puzzeled me > but
   > > I just took it with a grain of salt (what does that mean anyway?)
   > >
    > > Okay, I was working on a bike to install a triple TA crank and rings on
    > > it. First I needed a BB for the job and I used the W-DIH method. You > know,
    > > look in the bin and see What Do I Have. Since I have several BBs I did
    > > some basic measurements and found one that came close. After > installation
    > > I found that although the spindle was what I wanted the taper was not. > The
    > > crank did not even make it half way to be seated. Out it came and now I > am
    > > smarter so I go with one that seats better before I install it. Okay > now
    > > install the cranks. Of course I installed the non chain side first. > When I
    > > installed the chain side I noticed that there was still a huge gap from
    > > the BB to the crank. No matter, I will continue and give it a try. Took > it
    > > for one ride and it rode like a pig. Chain alignment problems and ankle
    > > biting because of the extended crank. Out it came. Next I went to my > LBS
    > > and told my tale of woe. We measured up correctly and found a spindle > that
    > > should work. Installed it and all seems well. Nice close fit from the > bb
    > > to the crank. Very much improved chain line so I thought I was all set.
   > >
    > > Well in trial shifts I noticed that the front rings shifted terribly
    > > (Using a Campy derailleur with a triple 26-36-46. It seemed that I
> could
    > > jump to the smallest and largest rings but could not get it to grab > that
    > > middle ring. Explained this situation to my LBS who explained that
> there
   > > was to much a gap from the middle ring to the largest ring and he
    > > suggested making the middle more like a 44 and that would improve the
    > > situation. Well I got lucky on ebay and found another TA triple ring > set
    > > and got it for a good price. Today arrived a 36-46-50 with the closer
   > > tooth combination that should work.
   > >
    > > I installed the new rings on the crank. Now mind you this is an exact
    > > switch of TA for TA. Same spindle and all. Now when I install the crank > on
    > > the BB the smaller ring hits the frame. It was a good 3-4 mm away
> before
    > > but now it interferes. I am about to take out the bb again and go with
    > > another one. Sooner or later I will hit on the right combination but > did
   > > not bank on this becoming my own version of rubiks cube.
   > >
   > > Ray Homiski
   > > Elizabeth, NJ
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