Thanks Pete Naiman, I'm going to try out your recommended ingredients. I've already publicly absolved myself of foaming citrus degreasers - must not have diluted and-or rinsed properly - after ruining the bright finish on a Campy derailleur. And, although I am safe with gasoline, I hate the disposal problems. I will bet, however, that I have the longest history (in relative terms, anyway) working with the stuff as a solvent-cleaner: As a four- and five-year-old "working" in my uncle's blacksmith shop -- where in addition to fixing every tractor and combine in our No. Dakota countryside, he (or "we") also was the only bike-smithy for many miles around -- we washed up every afternoon in an open tub of petrol. My aunt was a lunatic ("synsikk") over Uncle Tharald scrubbing up the baby with gas and lava soap, but I loved it. If I had stayed with them another month, I probably would have taken up smoking Camels before starting kindergarten. Vær så god, unnskylde et komme bort fra emnet.