Re: [CR]Interesting Track Frame & San Marco Swallow Saddle again???

(Example: Framebuilders:Alex Singer)

From: "Charles T. Young" <youngc@ptd.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Interesting Track Frame & San Marco Swallow Saddle again???
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 12:31:16 -0500


It seems as though the 2 listmembers that are presently bidding on the frame should consider retracting their bids to telegraph the shabby business practices of this eBay seller.

I had a seller of a Hetchins Mountain King frame defraud me and he subsequently resold it about 1 1/2 years later on eBay. Unfortunately, I wasn't made aware of it until the second auction had closed. Not sure if the buyer ever received it. Still a bit frothed about that deal and consider that the frame, wherever it is, is mine.

Charlie Young
Honey Brook, PA


----- Original Message -----
From: Tam Pham
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [CR]Interesting Track Frame & San Marco Swallow Saddle again???



> Wow - what a bunch of jerks that operation is. They charged me $90 to ship
> the frame by ground, then somehow the package ended up getting lost in
> transit. The seller's communications is the worst as they almost never repl
> y
> to emailed questions, and I had to deal with FedEx for many days trying to
> figure out what happened to the frame. The FedEx agents thought that the
> frame was likely poorly packaged/labeled and that the label fell off.
>
> When I emailed the seller to tell them that FedEx said the bike was lost,
> they amazingly sent me a different (and wrong) tracking number saying that
> things were OK.
>
> Anyways, the frame never arrived and after no success in getting the seller
> to refund me (at that point could make a claim with FedEx to recoup their
> loss) I had to file a complaint with Paypal. That step worked in motivating
> the seller to issue me a refund and they threw in some bonus surleyness to
> go with it.
>
> The short of it is that they're one of those "drop it off and we'll sell in
> for you on eBay" places. My biggest gripe is their very poor communications
> throughout the entire transaction. Now it looks like they got the frame bac
> k
> and didn't bother to email me to see if perhaps we could resume where we
> left off. Oh well.
>
> Tam "hey that was my frame!" Pham, in Huntington Beach, CA
>
>
>
>
> On 3/1/06, Kevin Kruger <ktk1_7_0_2_8@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I brought the following eBay auction to the list's attention first time
> > around, and now the same frame/saddle are listed again. Seem to recall a
> > list member stating that he purchased the frame, but that it was never
> > delivered because it was lost in transit.
> > Don't know the seller, but something doesn't appear to be right if I
> > follow what happened???
> >
> > http://ebay.com/<blah>
> QQitemZ7223232072
> > Regards,
> > Kevin Kruger
> >
> >
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