RE: [CR]KOFs and the market.

(Example: Framebuilders:Alberto Masi)

From: "Roman Stankus" <rstankus@mindspring.com>
To: "'P.C. Kohler'" <kohl57@starpower.net>, "'Louis Schulman'" <louiss@gate.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: RE: [CR]KOFs and the market.
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 21:54:27 -0500
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Louis was talking about the frame weight - not the complete bike.

Roman Stankus Atlanta, Ga.

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Subject: Re: [CR]KOFs and the market.

----- Original Message -----
From: Louis Schulman
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]KOFs and the market.

> Reynolds 531 bike compares to a stove pipe special. A modern lugged steel
> frame will weigh little more than half of the weight of a frame from the
> 50's. No classic bike from the 50's is going to come close to a Pegoretti
> Luigino or similar bike in ride. The closest you will get in a pre '84
> bike is a frame made from Reynolds 753, and these aren't from the 50's.

At the risk of being a weight weenie, I kinda doubt this. Louison Bobet's Stella from the 1954 TdF tipped the scaled complete at 26 pounds 4 ounces (22.64" frame) including spare tubular, bottle carrier and pump*. So you're telling me a KOF steel lugged frame complete with the fittings of your choice would weigh 13 pounds 2 ounces? That's even way under the Union Cycliist Internationale's min competition weight!

I want one!

*source: "Cycling" 18.11.54

Peter Kohler
Washington DC USA