I'm as nostalgic as anyone but nail on, non-adjustable cleats are for the birds in my opinion. They lead to not getting the angle right which leads to knee problems. I can't remember how many times I went through the establish a line and try and get some cobbler to get them on right routine. I'm sure Harvey is more skilled, but getting them ergonomically correct is a very tricky business that goes beyond even getting the cleats on that line.
Maybe the leather ones are more forgiving, but adjustable cleats and Fit-Kit fitting were two innovations I grabbed and never looked back.
I also like the dear departed Sidis with just the ribbed soles for a touring type shoe.
Joe Bender-Zanoni
Great Notch, Nj
> Those look fine. I'd suggest having the local cobbler fit a small
\r?\n> heel to
\r?\n> protect the shoe for light walking about. I'd take it one step
\r?\n> further and
\r?\n> also have the cobbler (or Harvey Sachs if he's in the
\r?\n> neighborhood) fit the
\r?\n> TA leather touring ref 40 "modele turino" cleats. As I recall, you
\r?\n> are a
\r?\n> woodworker, so this would be very straight forward for you, you'll
\r?\n> simplyneed to clinch nail them on yourself You can see them at
\r?\n> Joel Metz'
\r?\n> wonderful TA pages:
\r?\n>
\r?\n> http://www.blackbirdsf.org/
\r?\n>
\r?\n> http://www.blackbirdsf.org/
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Best to ride the shoes for a spell to establish the best line for
\r?\n> the cleat
\r?\n> positioning as the rear of the quill pedal cage leaves an indent.
\r?\n> While I
\r?\n> haven't tried it yet, these cleats would not be difficult for a
\r?\n> cobbler to
\r?\n> duplicate. They consist of a thin piece of steel with two leather
\r?\n> wedgesglued down.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> I'm a bit lazy; anyone have one or two pairs of factory-made TA
\r?\n> cleats to
\r?\n> sell? I've several shoes that could use them. Harv, why don't you
\r?\n> fab me a
\r?\n> prototype or two?
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Charlie Young
\r?\n> Honey Brook, PA
\r?\n>
\r?\n> p.s. You could always just wear a pair of think soled wingtips,
\r?\n> that has a
\r?\n> style all its own... Yo, Pergolizzi, what's your call?
\r?\n>
\r?\n> P. Lynn Miller asked:
\r?\n> ----- Original Message -----
\r?\n> > I found these - eBay - Item number: 7230533313 - Anyone know
\r?\n> anything> about these or have used this shoe? They may be a bit
\r?\n> too vintage. But I
\r?\n> > am looking for shoes with laces. No velcro or ratchets.
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > Thanks,
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > --
\r?\n> > P. Lynn Miller
\r?\n> > Sydney, Australia