Re: [CR]Re: cool old brit frames on eBay

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From: "Ken Wallace" <kwallace@cableone.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: cool old brit frames on eBay
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 21:17:19 -0700
To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>


Having dealt with Paul Cameron I found him to have beautiful and rare bikes in excellent condition, and to be easy to deal with.

Ken Wallace, Proprietor Bisbee Bicycle Brothel 63-B Brewery Ave. PO Box 1194 Bisbee, AZ 85603 (520) 236-4855 (cell) kwallace@cableone.net (email) http://www.bisbeebicyclebrothel.com

On Apr 7, 2006, at 8:20 PM, Chuck Schmidt wrote:
>
> On Apr 7, 2006, at 7:42 PM, Ben Kamenjas wrote:
>
>> Ya know,
>>
>> Were I interested I would be thinking great, the more alleged
>> strikes against this sellers auctions in terms of attracting a
>> wider market, the better. I would also wish he specify the frames
>> must be picked up in person, on a wednesday morning by a person
>> wearing a vintage Man City jersey who can prove he (or she?) is
>> circumcised whilst surrounded by a band of merry gypsies belting
>> out recent Romany tunes. That makes those who are now interested
>> narrowed down to about ... oh ... only 150 or so.
>>
>> Who cares ... his auctions, his terms and you know .... sometimes
>> it matters not with regard to price (he's hardly asking a lot for
>> most of his wares) but more that they fall in the right hands. We
>> all can guess that they cost the seller a great deal less than
>> he'll likely get. And perhaps too much emphasis is placed on the
>> highest price fantasy that pervades this list. Honestly, I wish I
>> could sell things by saying I have great stuff if I have to prove
>> it to you then your better off buying from somebody else. If you
>> need to be spoon fed 47 detailed pictures and the semantics that
>> go with them then your hardly in the spirit of being a collector
>> and passionate about these things. Check the auctions and how many
>> pimp frames he's offing - I'd say his word for 'em is better than
>> any pics and in all I know exactly the kind of buyer Im dealing
>> with and wouldn't hesitate for a minute. That there may be extra
>> hoops to jump means I'll be paying less for his wares.
>>
>> The facts: nobody with half a brain will ever lose money on any
>> high caliber vintage frames and parts. This is history, what you
>> pass up as being too expensive now, you'll rue for paying a
>> helluva lot more later.
>>
>> Me thinks .... maybe the seller is hanging up his cleats. It's
>> probable American's will end up with them, there are more
>> important things in life than playing domicile when in effect
>> giving away things of beauty and rarity. He is selling some
>> rather nice old bikes not pandering to those who lack faith,
>> expect the earth without having to exact some effort, or have
>> developed some ebay neurosis that precludes them from trusting
>> anything or anyone. It's only money and Im a firm believer of the
>> customer not always being right, those of you who disagree should
>> be scouring the vintage bike aisle in WalMart.
>>
>> Whoever the seller is good on him, if not least for providing
>> opportunity to listen to some nancy's get their knickers in a
>> twist. Im thinking about being post modern in my next auction and
>> just listing pics of my fridge, cupboard and bathroom cabinet
>> contents .... ummm ... maybe not, I need the money and you all
>> don't need proof of just how strange I really am ;)
>>
>> Ciao,
>>
>> Ben "PG Tips drinker" Kamenjas
>> Sydney, Oz
>
>
> Ben... take a deep breath... isn't it day time where you are? It's
> night here in SoCal.
>
> Get on that bike, ride it hard and put it away wet if you want.
> But definitely go for a ride buddy. You sound like you're
> stressing big time brutha!

>

> Your Pal, Chuck