[CR]Issues with Cirque du Cyclisme....


Example: Component Manufacturers:Avocet

Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 20:30:06 -0400
From: oroboyz@aol.com
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To: louiss@gate.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: [CR]Issues with Cirque du Cyclisme....

-----Original Message----- From: Louis Schulman <louiss@gate.net>

<< Frankly, I think this public sign-up thing is a bad idea. Many people, I am sure, just have too many things pending to guarantee that they can come. >>

Hi Louis:

Thanks for the feedback. You have me thinking!

I am not quite sure I understand your idea here. How does listing on the web page who is coming affect those who can not come? The idea of listing the signups is so that: A. everyone can see who is attending, get jazzed and maybe motivated to join in. B. help folks see that we in fact received their registration materials. C. So folks can see how full events are getting so that they can either get it together to sign up fast or realize that they missed the boat.

As far as trying to make it a guaranteed it being an easy "slide in" for folks who are on the fence about coming... Hmm, I am not sure that is the way one could plan an event like this that takes this much work.

<< Particularly, the auction sign-up makes no sense. Why not have it somewhere where anyone can come? Outside, if necessary. Limiting attendance at the auction not only is very discouraging for potential attendees, it also will necessarily reduce the prices received on some items. >>

The auction space is physically limited to 150 people. These last few years I doubt we could have fit in more than 75 people in the auction space. Iwill be surprised if we get 150 this time! If we reach that that number we can always move it next time again and expand it. But I need some idea in advance if I am to feed and manage this group. Going outside is a great idea except if it rains, the whole event is washed away! So....

<< Dumb idea. >>

Ha! Well, John Pergolizzi, Scott Ramsay, Ken Toda, John Barron, Lou Deeter, Harv Sachs and I have been trying to work it out for everyone so I guess we are guilty!

<< This would be my third Cirque. But I am not going to drive twelve hours when I know I can't even attend the auction. >>

Hey, I will save a space for you, dude!

Thanks again because for sure wer probably missed some angle or miscalculateed some aspect but we are trying! None of us are pros at this!

Hope to see you soon,

Dale

Dale Brown cycles de ORO, Inc. 1410 Mill Street Greensboro, NC 27408 USA 336-274-5959 http://www.cyclesdeoro.com http://www.classicrendezvous.com Giant, Specialized, Orbea, Bianchi, Felt, Litespeed, Landshark, Colnago, Townie and other exotica. National Bicycle Dealers Association Board member

-----Original Message----- From: Louis Schulman <louiss@gate.net> To: oroboyz@aol.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Sat, 13 May 2006 19:35:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [CR]Cirque du Cyclisme update

Frankly, I think this public sign-up thing is a bad idea. Many people, I am sure, just have too many things pending to guarantee that they can come.

Particularly, the auction sign-up makes no sense. Why not have it somewhere where anyone can come? Outside, if necessary. Limiting attendance at the auction not only is very discouraging for potential attendees, it also will necessarily reduce the prices received on some items.

Dumb idea.

This would be my third Cirque. But I am not going to drive twelve hours when I know I can't even attend the auction.

Louis Schulman Tampa, Florida

oroboyz@aol.com wrote:
   > In case you have not been watching the sign up page...
    > > (http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Events/Cirque/Cirque_06/signups.htm)
   > > There are, as of this morning:
   > > - 84 persons attending the Charity Auction (limited to 150)
   > > - 85 persons attending Seminars (limited to 150)
   > > - 93 persons attending the Banquet (limited to 120)
    > > It concerns me that some of you who may have procrastinated and will > potentially miss events that are truly exceptional.
   > > More details:
   > > Friday evening.
   > The new & improved "Cirque Charity Auction Celebration" will have:
    > - the premier of the complete of Jeff Gromans anticipated film, The
   > Jazz Sport. We saw clips from this at past Cirques but this is the full > deal.
    > - casual Buffet dinner of pasta with meat sauce, chicken Alfredo over > penne pasta, bread & salad.
    > - The auction itself, benefitting Operation Smile, with (just some of > the) items previewed on the Wool jersey website, > http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/Cirque-Auction
   > > Saturday afternoon.
   > The Seminars will feature 4 presentations and a box lunch:
    > - John Barron describing & displaying key components of his collection, > salient features that affect collectors approavchs oif vintage items....
    > - Dave Moulton relating his career as a master frame builder and > perspectives based upon his experiences.
    > - Charles Andrews and Matt Gorski, discussing the pros and cons of > vintage bicycle restoration and/or preservation.
    > - Peter Weigle showing & telling about his involvement in cycling and > bicycle frame building.
   > > Saturday Night.
    > The Banquet will take place in a very nice dining facility (the Painted > Plate) and features a catered dinner and awards plus a personal history > and overview of our sport by soon-to-be-inducted Hall of Famer Ted Ernst > from California.
    > > To be sure that you will be included, I urge you to mail the appropriate > form immediately. (no phone calls, please)
    > http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Events/Cirque/Cirque_06/entry_form.pdf
   > > You will be kicking yourself if you miss these historical events!
   > > Dale Brown
   > Greensboro, NC USA
   > http://www.classicrendezvous.com
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