Re: [CR]More on French dropout adjustors

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Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 07:57:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Fred Rafael Rednor" <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]More on French dropout adjustors
To: john@os2.dhs.org, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <4474679E.4080002@new.rr.com>


With respect to those Simplex dropouts that appear similar to the Campagnolo style, but use that little plastic cylinder to keep the adjuster screw tight...

Thousands (perhaps millions) of later day, quality Peugeots were built with them. That would certainly include the "almost PX-10" bikes like the PGN-10 and the PSV-10. It's alos worth noting that the derailleur mounting tab on the ones I've examined were threaded just like Campagnolo dropouts. This was even the case for bicycles that came equipped with Simplex derailleurs for which the threading was not required.
      Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)


--- John Thompson wrote:


> Jerome & Elizabeth Moos wrote:
>
> > Through the generosity of a fellow CR member (Is this a
> great list or
> > what?), I now have adjustors installed in the Huret
> dropouts of my
> > 1974 Raleigh Super Tourer.
> >
> > I believe these are Huret adjustors, although I can't find
> any Huret
> > markings. The screws seem about the same diameter as Campy
> adjustors,
> > but do not thread into the Huret dropouts. Instead they
> thread into
> > a crescent shaped piece of plastic that fits fairly snugly
> into the
> > back end of the dropout slot. The dropouts are either
> unthreaded or
> > a larger thread than Campy and do not themselves engage the
> adjustor
> > thread.
> >
> > Can anyone confirm that these are in fact Huret adjustors?
> Did Huret
> > ever make another type adjustor that threaded into the DO?
> If not,
> > are the holes in the Huret DO's not threaded then? Also,
> did the
> > adjustors I have originally have little caps screwed onto
> the
> > rear-facing ends like Campy adjustors? Finally, since
> these do not
> > thread into the DO, there seems to be nothing to prevent
> the screw
> > and plastic collar from moving forward in the DO when the
> wheel is
> > removed. Was the plastic collar held in place at the back
> of the DO
> > only by the wheel axle?
> >
> > This matter with the Huret adjustors has caused me to
> notice
> > something that I had overlooked for years, namely Simplex
> DO's with
> > threaded adjustors. The Simplex DO's on late 60's/early
> 70's PX-10s
> > are unthreaded and use Simplex adjustors which clamp the DO
> from
> > either side. I had assumed all Simplex DO's of the era
> were like
> > this. But now that I look again at the Simplex DO's on my
> 1972
> > Follis mod 172, which I think I've had 7 or 8 years, they
> are in fact
> > drilled and threaded and use adjustors that look very
> similar to
> > Campy adjustors. Anyone else have Simplex DO's like this?
> Were thay
> > relatively rare? What bikes other than Follis used them?
> Is the
> > adjustor thread the same as Campy?
>
> I have a set of Gipiemme dropouts with a threaded, crescent
> shaped piece
> of metal to hold the adjuster bolt. They do in fact fall
> forward when
> the wheel is removed, but the knurled nut on the end prevents
> them from
> being lost.
>
> FWIW, I also have a set of Simplex dropouts with a slightly
> different
> arrangement: a threaded plastic cylinder fits into a hole
> drilled
> through the dropout to hold the adjuster bolt.
>
> See both here:
>
> http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/2-dropouts.jpg
>
> --
> John (john@os2.dhs.org)
> Appleton WI USA
> _______________________________________________
>

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