RE: [CR]Oversize tubing - who did it? Gillott.

Example: Framebuilders:Alberto Masi

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Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 19:13:08 -0700
To: "neil foddering" <>,,
From: Jan Heine <>
Subject: RE: [CR]Oversize tubing - who did it? Gillott.

One-off lugs can be made by welding together tubes. Either gas-weld with enough material that you can file a nice radius, or add a brass fillet, and presto, you have a blank lug.

The next issue of Vintage Bicycle Quarterly has an article in the "Builders Speak" series by Mark Nobilette, where he shows with photos how he makes just such a lug.

So if Gillot just needed a few lugs, they might have made them that way. Many lugs for OS tandems were made that way in France.

Jan Heine Editor/Publisher Vintage Bicycle Quarterly c/o Il Vecchio Bicycles 140 Lakeside Ave, Ste. C Seattle WA 98122

At 9:49 PM +0000 5/27/06, neil foddering wrote:
>I have a 1953 Gillott Taper tube (lugged) with an 1 1/8th inch top
>tube. It's the only Gillott taper Tube model I've measured, but I
>understand that they normally had 1 inch top tubes. It's a puzzle,
>since it's unlikely that they had lugs made specially to take an
>oversize top tube for a one-off frame, but they appear to be of the
>standard spearpoint pattern. I've already mentioned it to Mark in
>his capacity as V-CC Gillott Marque Enthusiast, but has any one else
>any ideas, or come across other lugged frames of the period with 1
>1/8th inch top tubes?
>Neil Foddering
>Weymouth, England
>>From: "Mark Stevens" <>
>>To: <>
>>Subject: [CR]Oversize tubing - who did it? Gillott.
>>Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 19:47:57 +0100
>>Hello Jan , I can't tell you the wall thickness of a Gillott's
>>Tapered tube without resorting to a Hacksaw. That would ruin my
>>summer! I do recall Harry Carrington telling me that they
>>experimented with an ovalised Taper tube - running across the
>>bracket - for extra stiffness. A frame was built. He wanted to
>>patent this idea but it would have been very costly. Are you
>>including oversize toptubes? Gillotts built their lugless
>>L'Atlantique with 1 1/8th'' TT.
>> Mark Stevens Evanton Scotland