Re: [CR]Speculating on the PX-10

(Example: Racing)

Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 17:38:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Speculating on the PX-10
To: Steve Leitgen <sleitgen@charter.net>, r cielec <teaat4p@yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <9C82D844-BB25-4A39-8A83-4257D7B8861A@charter.net>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Peugeot, "In The Day" was probably the second biggest user of Reynolds tubing after Raleigh. They had more than enough clout to have a special tubeset made. Reality check - Reynolds made a special tubeset for Bates. Peugeot sold easily 10 times as many Reynolds frames as Bates, probably more like 100 times. Besides which metric gauge tubing wasn't only for Peugeot. Gitane, Motobecane, Mercier, LeJeune, Follis, Bertin and scores of smaller builders used it.

Regards,

Jerry Moos Big Spring, TX

Steve Leitgen <sleitgen@charter.net> wrote: Group;

Much has been said on the special handling of the PX-10. I've been doing some cogitating. Feel free to shoot me down.

It is highly doubtful that Reynolds (an english company) made special tubing for Peugeot (a french company) out of the goodness of their heart.

It is also highly doubtful that Peugeot paid for the tooling to make tubing that was just slightly of a different size just to be different.

531 has a standard seat tube ID of 27.2mm. Peugeots are 26.6 (8,4,2?)

Could it be possible that Peugeot used the seat tube as the downtube? (Downtube as the seat tube)

Could they also be using a different top tube than standard 531? Perhaps 531 SL?

Using a 531 seat tube straight end butted into the head tube and a 531 SL top tube in conjunction with a long fork rake and shallow head angle would give a nice soft ride. It would make for a slightly lighter frame too.

So what do you think? Hot air or am I onto (on) something?

Steve "if I see another full campy italian bike I'll chuck" : ) Leitgen La Crosse, WI