Fw: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay

(Example: Production Builders:Peugeot:PY-10)

Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:26:49 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: "Nick Zatezalo" <nickzz@mindspring.com>
To: CR List <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Fw: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay


This auction flies against how most of us would market an item for sale.

However as Chuck states below; it could be a real deal for the person willing to do proper due diligence and protect themselves from misrepresentation or fraud by the seller.

Personally I think it is plausible that the item is for real, and if I had a serious interest; would be collecting information that would make me feel comfortable about closing the deal or not.

This one requires a bit more effort than gawking at high resolution pixs and placing a bid on a snipe program.

Nick Zatezalo Atlanta,Ga

-----Forwarded Message-----

>From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>

>Sent: Jul 27, 2006 2:59 AM

>To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

>Subject: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay

>

>Sometimes (often?) something wonderful happens when a guy puts up a

>poorly crafted auction.

>

>The CR membership's reaction is, "Hummm, something hinky is going on

>here! Not interested!" But the guy who really wants a Confente

>goes, "I guess I just need to make an extra effort and find out what

>this guy's got." Often it results in getting something for a bargain

>in the end. Over the past 30 plus years I've collected some amazing

>stories to go with my bargains.

>

>Poorly crafted auctions scare off the dilettantes.

>

>Chuck Schmidt

>South Pasadena, Southern California

>

>

>David Toppin wrote:

>

>> Well, the lack of pictures certainly would make me question it!

>>

>>

>> David Toppin

>> dave@pelletizer.com

>> http://www.pelletizer.com <------ see our complete, searchable inventory.

>>

>> The Pelletizer Group, Inc.

>> 4 LaChance Street

>> Gardner, MA 01440-2476

>>

>> (978) 669-0060

>> (978) 669-0061 fax

>>

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org

>> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Chuck

>> Schmidt

>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:42 PM

>> To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS

>> Subject: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay

>>

>> Not the point actually. Of course everything can be done better

>> with very

>> little effort. But this thread started out with the assertion that

>> the

>> auction was questionable.

>>

>> Chuck Schmidt

>> South Pasadena, Southern California

>>

>> David Toppin wrote:

>>

>>> But it wouldn't hurt, and probably the bike would bring more money

>>>

>>>

>>> David Toppin

>>> dave@pelletizer.com

>>> http://www.pelletizer.com <------ see our complete, searchable inventory.

>>>

>>> The Pelletizer Group, Inc.

>>> 4 LaChance Street

>>> Gardner, MA 01440-2476

>>>

>>> (978) 669-0060

>>> (978) 669-0061 fax

>>>

>>>

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org

>>> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Chuck

>>> Schmidt

>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:16 PM

>>> To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS

>>> Subject: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay

>>>

>>> I don't remember ever hearing that selling a fairly rare and

>>> desirable

>>> bike required the seller to be polite...

>>>

>>> Chuck Schmidt

>>> South Pasadena, Southern California

>>>

>>>

>>> On Jul 26, 2006, at 6:13 PM, Mike Schmidt wrote:

>>>

>>>> Yo Chuck,

>>>>

>>>> The dude is a rude. I can corroborate Tom Sander's story of the

>>>> seller's

>>>> bedside manner. If you are going to sell a rare bike, a seller

>>>> should be

>>>> able to show photos, not illustrations, that represent its

>>>> condition.

>>>> So far, he illustrates his arrogance better than the bike.

>>>>

>>>> A brown Confente? Barf! Retch!, no wonder he does not want to show

>>>> photos.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Mike Schmidt reporting live on a balmy July evening from..

>>>> South Stirling, Southern part of Northern NJ

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>> From: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>

>>>> To: "CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 8:31 PM

>>>> Subject: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> This whole thread is starting to make me laugh! I see no "RED

>>>>> FLAGS"

>>>>> with this auction whatsoever.

>>>>>

>>>>> The seller states:

>>>>> "...local pickup only (no shipping)." and "Cash only (no cashier

>>>>> checks) will be accepted on buyers approval of item. Wire money

>>>>> directly to my bank."

>>>>>

>>>>> If I was selling my Confente (two numbers before the frame being

>>>>> auctioned) I'd have the buyer (or his representative) look over the

>>>>> frame and then, upon their approval of the frame, give me the CASH.

>>>>> There's no way I'd pack up a frame worth $4500 plus and send it off

>>>>> with a shipper... no way. And yes, if a complete Confente went for

>>>>> $8,000 on eBay more than a few years ago (a CR member was the

>>>>> buyer), then the frame might actually be worth $4500... if you want

>>>>> to own a Confente that is.

>>>>>

>>>>> Time for the list to take their chill pill.

>>>>>

>>>>> Chuck Schmidt

>>>>> South Pasadena, Southern California

>>>>>

>>>>> .