[CR]part 12

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From: "Richard Robinson" <vintagespoke@earthlink.net>
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Subject: [CR]part 12

part 12


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> 1. Alberti/Record on ebay...Baby Urago? (Peter Jourdain)
> 2. Re: Atala Grand Prix (Eric Phillips)
> 3. Was: Confente on E-Bay. Now: Enough already!
> 4. Re: Need advice on some Phil Wood Super Champion Tandem wheels
> (Steven Willis)
> 5. re: coolio brake pads
> 6. I have not heard (about) the ultrasonic lately...
> (gabriel l romeu)
> 7. Re: 70's Mercier 300 specifications (Nick Zatezalo)
> 8. Samples and odd stuff for sale (Chris Kulczycki)
> 9. Atala Grand Prix with Tullio Tubing (Kevin Kruger)
> 10. Horrible black stains on my brake calipers! (Tom Sanders)
> 11. Olmo Stuff
> 12. Re: Coolio Brake Pads (John Betmanis)
> 13. Ideor craigslist Salt Lake City (brian)
> 14. Ideor craigslist Salt Lake City (brian)
> 15. Re: Horrible black stains on my brake calipers! (aldoross4)
> 16. Horrible sepia stains on my bike pics (aldoross4)
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 05:59:06 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Peter Jourdain <pjourdain@yahoo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Alberti/Record on ebay...Baby Urago?
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> Greetings CR Mates---
>
> This Alberti/Record on ebay---
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>
> (Item number: 330012242463) ----- is in markings a
> close cousin to a Urago (note the headbadge with the
> face, and the bird on the seattube decal).
>
> I have no answers, simply some questions:
>
> 1. Is Alberti one of the two Urago brothers or another
> family member?
>
> 2. Did the two brothers split and one (akin to E.G.'s
> Bates' split with Horace) start up his own marque?
>
> 3. Or is this simply another Urago "brand" to
> "diversify" their line?
>
> 4. If it is simply another Urago brand, can anyone
> detect a difference in quality between Urago and
> Alberti/Record? According to the seller (Uragoparts)
> the bike had top-line fitments (Stronglight, Mafac,
> etc.)
>
> 5. Has anyone ever seen an Alberti/Record before?
>
>
> Simply curious...
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Peter Jourdain
> Whitewater, Wisconsin
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:10:41 -0400
> From: "Eric Phillips" <altinos@gmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Atala Grand Prix
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> After seeing pictures, I'm questioning if it's a Grand Prix. It's
> definitely an Atala, as it says on the front tube, but it looks slightly
> different. Definitely not complaining if it's not, it was free. It has
> stamped dropouts, Weinmann brakes, a Shimano 600 front derailleur, a Maxy
> crankset, a Suntour rear derailleur, and Campy downtube shifters. Couldn't
> tell who made the brake levers, but the hoods are all brown and nasty
> looking. It's seen better days. My plan was to wire brush all the old
> paint and stickers off (they're all unreadable anyway).
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:10:58 -0400
> From: oroboyz@aol.com
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Was: Confente on E-Bay. Now: Enough already!
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> Please, this has descended into silly bickering.
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> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, NC USA
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> Sent: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 1:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay
>
> Fairly or no, I'd pretty much assume any auction where the "seller"
> refused
> to provide photos of the bike alleged to be for sale a scam. At best,
> the
> seller is an idiot.
>
> Kurt Sperry
> Bellingham WA
>
> On 7/26/06, David Toppin <dave@pelletizer.com> wrote:
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> > Well, the lack of pictures certainly would make me question it!
> >
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:26:50 -0400
> From: "Steven Willis" <smwillis@verizon.net>
> To: "Don Wilson" <dcwilson3@yahoo.com>,
> "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Need advice on some Phil Wood Super Champion Tandem wheels
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> It looks like an Atom rear drum to me and would very much work as you said
> as a second brake for the rear wheel.
> Steven Willis
> The Bike Stand
> 1778 East Second Street
> Scotch Plains NJ 07076
> 908-322-3330
> http://www.thebikestand.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Wilson" <dcwilson3@yahoo.com>
> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 1:06 AM
> Subject: [CR]Need advice on some Phil Wood Super Champion Tandem wheels
>
>
> > Could someone take a look at these Super Champion
> > rim/hum set and tell me if the rear "drum" hub that
> > the seller refers to is an example of a drum brake for
> > a tandem? If it is, do you use that rear drum brake in
> > the hub in combination with cantilever brakes on the
> > rear wheel rim for increased stopping power due to the
> > weight of two folks on a tandem? Finally, would these
> > rims/hubs make a nice set of rims/hubs for my old
> > Gitane tandem that lacks a hub brake? Its Modolo rear
> > brake lever has seats for two cables.
> > http://ebay.com/<blah>
> >
> > Don Wilson
> > Los Olivos, CA USA
> >
> > D.C. Wilson dcwilson3@yahoo.com
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 9:32:49 -0400
> From: <sachshm@cox.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]re: coolio brake pads
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> the Matthauser finned brake pad assemblies are great for display bikes. After this much time, I would not use them on a real rider, for fear of failure of the bonding agent between the pad and the holder. I'm on the road, but I think I remember having one naked holder at home, as a result of such a failure at some point.
>
> harvey sachs,
> downtown Hot Springs AR.
>
> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:33:00 +1000
> From: Ben Kamenjas <bici_pimp@mac.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Coolio Brake Pads
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> Literally, these brake pads have holders with fins for cooling and to
> better dissipate heat.
> Not my auction, no relation ... yada yada ... but these are very .. um
> .. cool !!!
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
> POST-TYPE_W0QQitemZ300011676671
>
> It appears the seller has 2 sets, as well as a bunch of coolio on topic
> parts too.
>
> ciao,
>
> ben kamenjas
> Sydney, Oztralia
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:50:06 -0400
> From: gabriel l romeu <romeug@comcast.net>
> To: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]I have not heard (about) the ultrasonic lately...
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> and I have been reading the extensive amount of posts in the archives,
> but I did not read anything about cleaning freewheels.
>
> I am willing to dump almost anything into my commercial ultrasonic
> (using a strong solution of simple green w/ degreaser) that I can get
> access for relubrication. In the case of freewheels, we used to (1970)
> spray lubrication in the mating sections (stationary and moving),
> front and back, to reduce the clickiness.
> I can imagine the interior, the two rows of bearings with the 'stops' in
>
> between.
> I can think of quite a few thing to do to insure rust protection
> (biosheild t6), possible lubrication from Phil Wood Tenacious Oil to
> Teflon based lubrication...
> But I still can't see it.
> Any well substantiated advice whether this is a plausible cleaning soluti
> on?
> --
> gabriel l romeu
> will ride my loop the other way to cook evenly on both sides in the
> central western part of new jersey, usa
> ± http://studiofurniture.com Ø http://journalphoto.org ±
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:52:03 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> From: Nick Zatezalo <nickzz@mindspring.com>
> To: Stephen.P.Kinne@hsbcpb.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]70's Mercier 300 specifications
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> Steve your post regarding the Mercier 300 exemplifies what was the norm
> back during those days. The demand for '10 speeds' was beyond manufacturing
> capacity at the time. Specs were more of a guidline than a reality in those days.
> It was better to supply a non spec bike than no bike at all.
>
> I still chuckle when some one profusely claims that a certain '70s vintage bike can
> not be original because the catalogue spec states blah...blah.
>
> Nick Zatezalo
> Atlanta,Ga
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Stephen.P.Kinne@hsbcpb.com
> >Sent: Jul 27, 2006 8:46 AM
> >To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> >Subject: [CR]70's Mercier 300 specifications
> >
> >
> >I bought a Model 300 in the early 1970's when I was wrenching at Precision
> >Cycle in Putnam Connecticut. We sold Merciers, Jeunets, and Raleighs.
> >Merciers came from Beacon Cycle in Boston. (Nick Z, my old boss was Bob
> >Van Haagen, you may remember him he recently passed away). I put about 500
> >miles on the Mercier and then put it in my basement. It's still in my
> >basement, original bar tape and all. Here's what I got around 1973 or so:
> >
> >Reynolds 531 double butted frame, front and rear forks.
> >Chromium plated half front fork and stays (chrome is going).
> >Simplex forged rear dropouts, stamped front dropouts.
> >Nervex "pro" fork crown, Bocama "Professional" short point lugs.
> >Simplex Criterium front and rear gear changers, rear changed later to a
> >Super LJ.
> >Simplex LJ frame mount shift controls, the metal levers with the plastic
> >covers.
> >Normandy SPORT Dural QR large flange hubs, Atom QR.
> >Stronglight headset.
> >Stronglight 93 crankset, 45x52.
> >Simplex cable clips.
> >Lyotard Dural platform rattrap pedals.
> >Chrome steel seat post.
> >MAFAC brakes with white half-hooded levers and adjusters.
> >Atom freewheel 14 x 24.
> >Sedis chain.
> >AVA alloy rims.
> >Butted spokes.
> >Hutchinson tubular sew-up racing tires.
> >Crappy quilted vinyl covered plastic "racing" saddle (gone, replaced with
> >one of those neato drilled Unicanitor plactic ones).
> >Pivo alloy bars and stem.
> >Dural pump with hose (gone).
> >Clamp-on pump clips.
> >Christophe Special toe clips and straps.
> >Color: Kelly Green
> >Frame Size: 25", said so on carton, but it measures 23.5" or so. 75 degree
> >head angle, great fast handler and very light.
> >
> >Cost: $250 retail, $208 wholesale.
> >
> >Steve Kinne
> >NYC today
> >
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:04:28 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Chris Kulczycki <chris@velo-orange.com>
> To: classic rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Samples and odd stuff for sale
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> Hi All,
>
> In my continued search for new-old-stock stuff for Velo Orange I've come across some items that might be off interest:
>
> NOS TA Pro 3-pin crank, 170mm $175
>
> NOS TA Pro TRACK crank, 165mm (this is the real deal, not a road crank) $170
>
> Various chainrings for the above, $30-$40 or so depending on size
>
> NOS Cinnelli 1R stem 105mm $75
>
> NOS Cinnelli XA stem 110mm $105 (Are these really worth this much?)
>
> I'll also have a few TTT record 84 stems and some gorgeous old Fiamme stems.
>
> If you think I'm way out of line on the prices, please let me know.
>
> And finally, I posted a short description/review of my almost NOS 1972 Starnord.
>
> Chris
> http://www.velo-orange.com/
> http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Chris Kulczycki
> Velo Orange
> 109 Colonial Avenue
> Annapolis, MD 21401
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:06:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Kevin Kruger <ktk1_7_0_2_8@yahoo.com>
> To: altinos@gmail.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Atala Grand Prix with Tullio Tubing
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> Eric,,,,,here are some more photos to compare your Atala Grand Prix to. I just sold this 1970s frame to a list member. Your bike probably received some component "upgrades" early in its life.
>
> The Wool Jersey site has been down for a couple days, so you may have to keep checking back to view the photos. Here's the site address:
>
> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/AtalaGrandPrix
>
> Regards,
> Kevin Kruger - Grantville, PA
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:14:39 -0400
> From: "Tom Sanders" <tsan7759142@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Horrible black stains on my brake calipers!
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> Yesterday evening I set a really filthy pair of old Record Calipers in a
> plastic container filled with hot water and a couple of household grease
> cutting detergents to soak. I checked them later and they were coming along
> just fine...so I thought.
> I figured that I would just leave them over night and finish them up in the
> morning.
> To my horror, this morning they had ugly black stains all over the aluminum
> arms and these stains are very persistent. They will come off (mostly )
> with the application of some 0000 steel wool, but so does the anodizing
> beneath the stain.
> I suppose I could take all the anodizing off to produce an even finish (is
> there an easier way than Easy Off Oven Cleaner?) but I sure would like to
> figure out a way to make the black stain disappear.
> Anyone out there got any experience or suggestions for dealing with this
> problem?
> Tom Sanders
> Lansing, Mi USA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:17:05 -0400
> From: <sachshm@cox.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Cc: yanko@ffi.com
> Subject: [CR]Olmo Stuff
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> Yanko's message reminds me that I do have an OLMO steel seat tube clamp from that era, not perfect by any means, but rechromable. don't know where it came from, but could be yours for $15 shipped US, or something interesting otherwise as trade with cash adjustment.
>
> I will probably not be able to reply until after August 3.
>
> thakns
> harvey sachs
> mcLean va
>
>
> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:26:36 -0700
> From: "Yanko Damboulev" <yanko@ffi.com>
>
>
> I am looking for a NOS Olmo Head Badge for a 1960's Olmo project.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Yanko Damboulev
> LA, CA 90069
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:29:34 -0400
> From: John Betmanis <johnb@oxford.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Coolio Brake Pads
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> I put a set of those (but with threaded studs) on the front of my Nishiki
> Ultimate after finding that the Campag brake blocks were useless in the
> wet. The fins are just for show and don't do anything. You can get
> replacements with the same compound for many vintage brakes.
> http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/brakeshoes.html#koolstop
>
> At 10:33 PM 7/27/06 +1000, Ben Kamenjas wrote:
> >Literally, these brake pads have holders with fins for cooling and to
> >better dissipate heat.
> >Not my auction, no relation ... yada yada ... but these are very .. um
> >.. cool !!!
> >
> >http://ebay.com/<blah>
> >POST-TYPE_W0QQitemZ300011676671
>
>
> John Betmanis <johnb@oxford.net>
> Woodstock, ON Canada
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:57:20 -0700 (PDT)
> From: brian <bbspokes@yahoo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Ideor craigslist Salt Lake City
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> I have an Olmo which looks to be identical except it is blue with Campy cranks and Universal 61 brakes. I also had a Campi, and a repainted Giradengo. They all had very simular details. Two had the chromavelto as the CL bike has, the Giradengo I suspect also was since this finish does not like dampness and I suspect they had a high failure rate of the original finish. Brian Blum
>
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:02:32 -0700 (PDT)
> From: brian <bbspokes@yahoo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Ideor craigslist Salt Lake City
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> My question is were these brands, Ideor, Campi, Olmo, Giradengo, Capi and others all the same bikes made in the rumored prison factory? Brian Blum in Berkeley
>
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:04:28 -0500
> From: "aldoross4" <aldoross4@siscom.net>
> To: "Tom Sanders" <tsan7759142@sbcglobal.net>,
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Horrible black stains on my brake calipers!
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> I've had a similar experience with a pair of strap-loop
> Record pedals - left them a few days partially submerged in
> some dish washing liquid (Dawn Ultra) and the aluminum came
> out black where they were submerged. I took Simichrome to
> them... helped remove the black, but they're now two-toned,
> one section being more of a gray color.
>
> I won't be using dish soap to soak aluminum parts anymore.
>
> Aldo Ross
> Middletown, Ohio
>
> ----- Original Message Follows -----
> From: "Tom Sanders" <tsan7759142@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Horrible black stains on my brake calipers!
> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:14:39 -0400
>
> > Yesterday evening I set a really filthy pair of old Record
> > Calipers in a plastic container filled with hot water and
> > a couple of household grease cutting detergents to soak.
> > I checked them later and they were coming along just
> > fine...so I thought. I figured that I would just leave
> > them over night and finish them up in the morning.
> > To my horror, this morning they had ugly black stains all
> > over the aluminum arms and these stains are very
> > persistent. They will come off (mostly ) with the>
> application of some 0000 steel wool, but so does the
> > anodizing beneath the stain.
> > I suppose I could take all the anodizing off to produce an
> > even finish (is there an easier way than Easy Off Oven
> > Cleaner?) but I sure would like to figure out a way to
> > make the black stain disappear. Anyone out there got any
> > experience or suggestions for dealing with this problem?
> > Tom Sanders
> > Lansing, Mi USA
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:06:06 -0500
> From: "aldoross4" <aldoross4@siscom.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Horrible sepia stains on my bike pics
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> Looks like wooljersey.com is up and running again.
>
> Aldo Ross
> Middletown, Ohio
>
> ----- Original Message Follows -----
> From: "Tom Sanders" <tsan7759142@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Horrible black stains on my brake calipers!
> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:14:39 -0400
>
> > Yesterday evening I set a really filthy pair of old Record
> > Calipers in a plastic container filled with hot water and
> > a couple of household grease cutting detergents to soak.
> > I checked them later and they were coming along just
> > fine...so I thought. I figured that I would just leave
> > them over night and finish them up in the morning.
> > To my horror, this morning they had ugly black stains all
> > over the aluminum arms and these stains are very
> > persistent. They will come off (mostly ) with the
> > application of some 0000 steel wool, but so does the
> > anodizing beneath the stain.
> > I suppose I could take all the anodizing off to produce an
> > even finish (is there an easier way than Easy Off Oven
> > Cleaner?) but I sure would like to figure out a way to
> > make the black stain disappear. Anyone out there got any
> > experience or suggestions for dealing with this problem?
> > Tom Sanders
> > Lansing, Mi USA
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> _______________________________________________
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