Dale, Steve, and all,
Dale is correct. I almost never deal with complete bikes anymore.
There are too many variables in bike parts these days, just to begin
with. Most people who acquire a custom frame will want to kit it out
their way. All I need to know is what they are planning to use. I'll
build the frame to accomodate the parts, as neccessary.
If you build frames I don't see any real reason to get wraped up in
dealing with parts. It's a pain in the keaster. I haven't bought a
current group in about 20 years. All the bikes I have or have built
for myself have been put together with parts I've had on hand for
years; mostly purchased at swap meets, from distributors purging
obsolete parts, and other such sources. eBay put an end to most of
the good deals from the past that people like me would run into.
Brian Baylis
La Mesa, CA
<< The local bike shop might be good for one or two gruppos but lets
say I have five of my best friends lining up for me. Sachs, Gordon
and
Bayliss get their stuff from somewhere.
How is a newly minted expert frame builder going to deliver a
complete
bike? >>
Why wouldn't the local bike shop want to supply as many groups as
you
want?
This maybe a statement of the obvious, but... Once you have a
business
license, a resale tax number, appropriate insurance, telephone yellow
pages ad, etc., proving that you are a serious full timer and not a
dilettante, you can apply for an account with companies like Security
Bicycles Accessories in Hempstead, NY or Quality Bicycle Supply in
Minn. Qualification is not easy because people who make their bona
fide
living from such product are protected by these wholesale suppliers..
In preractice, most (?) custom builders do not mess with the parts as
it adds to their capital outlay and complicates their lives. They
would
rather spend their time becoming more expert at the frame building
part. :)
Dale Brown Greensboro, NC USA http://www.classicrendezvous.com
-----Original Message----- From: sleitgen@charter.net To: Jonathanadamgree@aol.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [CR]KoF bikes
Jonathon; Excellent sources! Thanks!
But that only answers question #1
Still unanswered is where to get parts. Like I said some misguided
fools might be interested in equipping a bike with indexed shifting
and
those truly weird "brifters". The local bike shop might be good for
one
or two gruppos but lets say I have five of my best friends lining up
for me. Sachs, Gordon and Bayliss get their stuff from somewhere.
How is a newly minted expert framebuilder going to deliver a
complete
bike?
Steve Leitgen La Crosse, WI
On Aug 3, 2006, at 5:37 PM, Jonathanadamgree@aol.com wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> you can do it. with time you could do it well.
>
> to answer your questions about where to source frame parts, check
>
out the
> below links.
>
> _www.bikelugs.com_ (http://www.bikelugs.com) , the site of CR pal
>
Kirk > Pacenti > > _www.richardsachs.com_ (http://www.richardsachs.com) > > _www.henryjames.com_ (http://www.henryjames.com) > > _www.ceeway.com_ (http://www.ceeway.com) > > _www.novacycles.com_ (http://www.novacycles.com) > > for some guidance see _www.frameforum.net_ (http://>
http://www.frameforum.net) and > subscribe to the frame list that is related to this list. >
_www.phred.org_ > (http://www.phred.org) . > > Richard Sachs also has a page that links builders picture pages at > _www.richardsachs.com/howframesaremade.html_ > (http://www.richardsachs.com/howframesaremade.html) > > I hope these resources help. If I have left out any friends out >
I'm sorry. > > Jonathan Greene > Oviedo FL > > > > > In a message dated 8/3/2006 5:50:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > sleitgen@charter.net writes: > > I was working on my favorite steed (with a hammer). There is a > certain zen to working on your bike with a hammer. What bike? A
1987 > Linear Recumbent . But wait, I do have an on topic series of > questions in this. I noticed I had built a very nice fork for it > using track blades and a Cinelli track crown. So to the questions. > > Much had been said about beginning framebuilders and whether they > should go out and create or travel with significantly more caution. > Is it something for everyone or only the select few? Can a trained > monkey do it? Something has been very absent in this discussion. > > 1) Where would that master builder or trained monkey get the parts? > I'm talking tubes, lugs, bottom brackets, crowns, drop outs, >
braze-ons? > > Also while it is nice to try to keep old parts on the road there
are > a few crazies who might like to indulge themselves with modern
index > shifting and 130 mm dropout spacing. (It's on topic if it goes on a > KoF frame) so... > > 2) Suntour used to have a small framebuilder program. Does anyone > have something like that? Do you go to a distributor? LBS? > > How does a framebuilder proceed beyond knowing how to braze? > > > Ahh, adjusting your steed with a 1 1/2 lb. fine alignment
instrument.
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> Steve Leitgen
> La Crosse, WI
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