Re: [CR]Pic of the Day - Cyclocross 1950

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From: <hersefan@comcast.net>
To: Jan Heine <heine94@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Pic of the Day - Cyclocross 1950
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:52:34 +0000
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

I don't think from the photo that there is enough detail to rule out a typical Barra attachment to the dropout. The seatstay attachment screams aluminum to me, and the cable guide on the toptube looks just like what I see on both a Barra and Fontaynalloy.

I think that the only way to solve this is to get a better quality image - is Faliero laughing right now?

Mike Kone in Boulder CO


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From: Jan Heine

> >Well I'll disagree with Jan on this one - Lack of typical Barra

\r?\n> >features does not rule out Barra (just might make it less likely).

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> >Sitting in front of me is a Fontaynalloy frame - an aluminum frame

\r?\n> >sold through a British distrubutor (but identified in advertising as

\r?\n> >being of Continental origin) which has seatstays that look like the

\r?\n> >ones in the photo.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> I looked at am aluminum Garrin, made by Barra or at least with

\r?\n> Barra's input, and it has yet another seatstay attachment. So I

\r?\n> wouldn't rule out that Barra did different seatstay attachments.

\r?\n> However, all of them have relatively "abrupt" transitions from stays

\r?\n> to dropout, unlike the "flowing" attachment on Robic's bike.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> >We simply don't know who made the frame

\r?\n>

\r?\n> What about a steel Barra? I've never seen one, but he made them...

\r?\n> And while brakes from other makers show up on various bikes, like a

\r?\n> certain Daudon with Herse brakes, I never have seen Barra brakes on a

\r?\n> bike from another maker...

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