[CR]Pino BB *Threading*

(Example: Framebuilding)

Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:33:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David Patrick" <patrick-ajdb@sbcglobal.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: [CR]Pino BB *Threading*

Tam,

Lighten up my boy, as I don't really appreciate your comments directed my way and your comments are entirely uncalled for. So, are you gonna nail me to a cross later today? If so, can you give me an approximate time, as I'd like to get a good ride in first, ok? Whatever I said about this bike was conjecture on my part when it appeared on Ebay on the first go round. I was guessing that it was the same bike that my brother bought from the Turin shop in Chicago, as there aren't too many of these Colnogo/Merckx track bikes around, plus this bike was the same size as my brother would have ridden. Jeez, sorry if my comments don't fit your theory . It is a fact that my brother was very good friends with Pino and also knew Cecil quite well, so that added a bit of support to my conjecture. Is there documentation on Pino shipping this bike over from Italy? Cecil and Pino are both gone, so you are relying on Todd Davis for this info? Todd has provided you with the shipping documentation? Or is this just hear-say? I guess I'm just asking as I don't recall this "colorful" of a history with the bike when it was listed on Ebay a few years ago (assuming this is the same bike). Just wondering....

Dave Patrick Chelsea, Michigan

Tam Pham <terminaut@gmail.com> wrote: Hi John,

Pino set the bike up with the BB as well as lightened the steerer tube significantly (see attached photo). I don't know if you followed the infamous thread about the "prototype" hour record bike a while back, but this is the subject bike.

Cheers, -Tam

PS: David Patrick made some claims about the bike that the original person who bought it from Cecil Behringer says is ridiculous... And David also had two different stories!

http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=classicrendezvous.10211.0609.eml http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=classicrendezvous.10308.0952.eml

The history from Cecil is that this frameset was originally used as a prototype of sorts for the hour record effort. In 1982 Pino shipped it from Italy over to Cecil, and Cecil didn't really have an interest in keeping the bike as he would rather see it used. He thus sold it to his friend Todd Davis on the condition that Todd would put it to good racing, which he did for 10 years until he retired. After retiring, Todd then sold the bike and Noel Smith (a collector) bought it. Noel is now gettting out of bikes and I picked it up from him.

On 8/20/06, John Barron wrote:
>
> Tam-
>
> How did you deal with the threading requirements for the Pino BB?
>
> His BB's are somewhat difficult to deal with because the threading in the
> frame's BB shell must be continous from one end to the other. Most BB shells
> are are threaded for 2 separate cups.
>
> Do tell!
>
> Thanks
>
> John Barron
> Minneapolis MN
>
> Tam wrote-
>
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:25:08 -0700
> From: "Tam Pham" < terminaut@gmail.com>
> To: "Classic Rendezvous" < Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Pino Morroni BB in action...
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> I was working on one of my project bikes today and noticed that the Pino
> Morroni bottom bracket is exceptionally smooth. I haven't done any
> maintenance on the BB since taking ownership of it, and after witnessing
> how
> freely it spins I can see why Pino went through the trouble of designing
> his
> own cartridge system. Anyways, for those who might be bored and have
> bandwidth to download a 2MB video, check out my 40-second clip at:
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> http://www.fooriders.com/images/bikes/colnagomerckx/pino_bb.wmv
>
> Cheers,
> Tam Pham
> Huntington Beach, CA - USA