Re: [CR]Atala frame dating....help please if you can serial # provided

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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 06:33:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Fred Rafael Rednor" <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Atala frame dating....help please if you can serial # provided
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <20060908082524.80201.qmail@web56811.mail.re3.yahoo.com>


David, The frame is from 1969. Do you have the parts that originally came on the bike? That will help you determine the model. It sounds as though it's either a Gran Prix or a Competizione. 1969 or '70 was the last year of "nicer" version of the Gran Prix, when it was made from Columbus tubing and came with Nuovo Record derailleurs amd hubs. The original parts for a 1969 Gran Prix would have been as follows: derailleurs - as mentioned, Campagnolo NR hubs - Campagnolo Record brakes - Weinmann center pull (with Universal levers) headset - Magistroini, but marked as Atala crank - Magistroni cottered swith Stronglight aluminum chainrings stem - the very distinctive TTT Gran Prix handlebars - TTT with very plain Gran Prix markings rims - 27" clinchers, could be either Rigida or Fiamme

For the Competizione of that era, the equipment would be similar except that the brakes would be Universal side pull models, and the rims would be for tubulars. (The crank might also have been cotterless - but don't remember precisely.)

If you only have a bare frame, the brake reach should allow you to distinguish between the two models.
     Best regards,
     Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)


------ David Gates wrote:


> Hello all,
>
> I have an Atala that I am unable to determine the serial
> number and match it up with
> a date code, or what the numbers are or mean concerning
> model. Could any of you Atala people help me. This bike has
> chrome lugsand the serial number is on the upper right of the
> seat stay. The number is # 69A1272. I dont know that much
> about vintage Atala's, but this example is similar to the
> Cinelli and Windsor, as it kind of flattens, and then joinsat
> the clamp area. The bike has Campagnolo long horizontal drops
> and Campy fork ends as well. Dimensions are as follows
> Rear stays 44cm ( c obb to rear of inside drop)
> Wheelbase 101cm
> Seat tube 60cm(c bb to top of tt)
> Top tube 57cm (c to c)
> Also, the lug work is the classical inward spearpointed
> lugs
> Thanks for any help you could possibly help me with.
> Respectfully,
> John D. Proch
> LaGrange, Texas
>
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