[CR]Bending axles etc

(Example: Production Builders:Peugeot)

Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:12:26 -0400
From: "Harvey M Sachs" <sachshm@cox.net>
To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, doug@Kingsweir.plus.com
Subject: [CR]Bending axles etc


Please let me descrbe two classes of rear axles frequently seen bent, in my experience:

1) Early 1960s Raleighs, I believe SuperCourse models. At our college (Rice U), these were used for an intramural race. The rear axles regularly bent, in my opinion because Raleigh cut corners. We used derailleurs and FW, factory stock, but the DO slots were sized for Sturmey axles. So, the axles got flats ground into the ends, in just the direction that minimized strength. In addition, as someone noted, the FW hubs carried their bearings much closer to the centerline than the older S/A hubs. Dumb. There was a minor student machine shop business in making and heat-treating replacement axles of better metal... By the way, the wheels were 32/40, and I do remember the lovely pretzel shape of one rear that had been slid into a curb/kerb. Today we'd die for one of those Dunlop HP rims, but back then it was a chance to install Weinmann alloy ones.

2) 60s - 70s Atom FW brake hubs for tandems, with oversized (solid) axle. Peugeot, Follis, Motobecane, Gitane... Usual suspects: high load, and bearings near the centerline.

With this background, when I saw my first Phil hubs, and understood that the big shell housed a large dia. tubular axle, I just thought, "Duh! Isn't that obviously the right way to make a hub!"

harvey sachs mcLean va

Gareth Libre wrote I have been working on bikes for a few decades now. Starting with the British 3 speeds that everyone had in the early 60's. I took apart many of my friends bikes and my own and my brother's. I never saw, or think I never saw a bent wheel axle nor a bent crank axle.

Following on to his comments and weight being one of the reasons I believe the main cause in my experience is the road surfaces which are left neglected by the higway authorities . Carriageway repairs are are a low priority in the UK and many defects are left in a state of repair for long period of time. I personally have never experienced a bent axle only complete breakage on a few occasions. They have always been the hollow QR spindle especially the type with a raised shoulder for the cone to tighten up against. Ofcourse the quality of any hub must be a factor with lower budget being more apt to wear and tear than the more expensive sets. Pot holes in the road and jumping the kerb stones do no good to any axle but the off road material appears to manufactured to guard against any risk of damaging either hub or crank axle. I pass on the bent bottom bracket axle as I've never heard of this happening in my experience!

Doug Smith
North Dorset
UK