Re: [CR]Fixed cup coming loose

(Example: Production Builders:Peugeot)

From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
To: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "Jan Heine" <heine94@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Fixed cup coming loose
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:05:52 -0700
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An exciting exercise to say the least. Another way to secure the cup after fastening real well is to take a center punch and make a small indent on the BB to expand onto the flat of the BB cup a little and prevent backing out. Have seen as many as 3-4 punches but that's overkill. When removing often the tool would straighten it out and the cup would undo, or it could be filed a little back to flat shell, or a flat sharp edge could be used to hammer the BB shell back a trifle to ease unscrewing.
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates
CA USA


----- Original Message -----
From: Jan Heine
To: Chuck Schmidt


<classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:24 PM Subject: [CR]Fixed cup coming loose


> >My experience in the real world is that right hand threaded fixed cups
> >loosen up occasionally if they're not installed REALLY tight.
>>I've seen this happen occasionally on rides with friends (not ever on my
>>bikes). The left hand threaded left pedal and the left hand threaded
>>fixed cup are a simple solution to an existing problem.
>
> I've had that happen on a bike with a modern BB that had lockrings on both
> sides. Well, modern is relative - it was an early Syncros BB, almost
> within the CR timeline.
>
> However, if it happens on your CR timeline bike, the trick to get home is
> simple: Use a big gear, and pedal one revolution forward and three back.
> Backpedaling will screw the cup back in, and forward pedaling will unscrew
> it. Of course, if you have steep hills, etc., it might be necessary to
> walk, but it worked for me for 15 miles.
>
> It happened twice, and then the offending BB was replaced with a Campy
> C-Rec (which has the same cups as within-CR-timeline Super Record), and no
> further problems were experienced.
> --
> Jan Heine
> Editor
> Vintage Bicycle Press
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> Seattle WA 98122
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