Re: [CR] can a better KOF frame be bought?----Sponsoring a Blue Bicycle (Guitar) Collection?

(Example: Component Manufacturers:Cinelli)

Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 19:58:57 -0400
From: "gabriel l romeu" <romeug@comcast.net>
To: Peter Jourdain <pjourdain@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] can a better KOF frame be bought?----Sponsoring a Blue Bicycle (Guitar) Collection?
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cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Your right Peter, I was wrong in inferring that you were promoting the idea of eye candy.

But I think the premise of unlimited resources resulting in the best work is not necessarily valid, especially with the nature of Craft.

One of my considerations is that in dealing with a functional item, the criteria varies immensely and the 'best' will vary to need. The major rationale is that the 'perfectly' designed Craft object is the

one where the relationship between the maker and the user has been perfectly bridged with the object- the maker has produced the optimal object for the users requirements. It would be interesting to see what a builder would like to make with unlimited resources, but their perfect bicycle is the one that is well used and loved by it's rider.

What is missing from the sponsorship collection is integral to the equation of the perfect functional object, the user.

you are a pleasure to converse with Peter, in a continual rainy day in Chesterfield nj USA, gabriel

Peter Jourdain wrote:
> Hi, Gabe & All--
>
> Thanks for your comments, you make some sound points
> and I don't necessarily disagree with you.
>
> But in reference to your statement about my comments,
> I don't believe that you can infer from what I wrote
> that I advocate creating a group of wall-hangers per
> se---I was just pushing the concept of somebody
> sponsoring builders to do their best work in a single,
> coordinated effort.
>
> And I see no incompatibility with bikes being both in
> a display sometimes and on the road sometimes (or even
> ALL the time). And, actually, the guitars in question
> have been played both privately, in recording sessions
> and in public performances, etc., so they have been
> used. It's just that they also are part of an "art"
> display.
>
> I love pristine bikes, I love beat-up bikes, and
> everything in between. They all have their unique
> beauty and I can appreciate them both as functional
> machines and as objects d'art. If somebody wants to
> keep them as they would keep a Picasso, fine. If they
> want to ride them in L'Eroica, fine. There are no
> stone tablets pronouncing the rules, as far as I see.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Peter Jourdain
> Whitewater, Wisconsin USA
>
> --- gabriel l romeu <romeug@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Obviously, Peter loves guitars as much as me. unlike
>>Peter, I think that
>>guitars hanging in a museum collection is about as
>>unfulfilling as it can
>>be, and rather uncomplimentary to the evolution of
>>tone that a guitar
>>can acquire with being played. [edit]
>
>
>
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