Re: [CR]"Fake" bikes on E-Bay

(Example: Racing)

Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:23:15 -0400
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
From: "John Betmanis" <johnb@oxford.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]"Fake" bikes on E-Bay
In-Reply-To: <006d01c6dcd2$4c1f4b40$46fbd045@ts>


At 12:31 PM 9/20/06 -0400, Tom Sanders wrote:
>I am sure that the seller I bought my mis- labeled bike
>from really thought it was a Matthews (quite a rare bike built by Matt
>Assenmacher at the start of his career) and had no idea what an Atala might
>have looked like.

Often people would find nice looking frames that have been repainted with no markings or sold that way in the first place because the builder had surplus inventory originally built for a well-known brand. In order to add pedigree, they would repaint the frame and add decals after an educated (or not) guess as to what the brand might be. I've had friends who picked up really nice frames at a bargain price because there was no famous name on the downtube, but had been told it was in fact a "so-and-so". Some might recognize the lugs and bits and know it's a good frame, but the majority would only by the name. Someone from Montreal posted on Bike Forums about a "Marinoni" for sale asking if it was the real deal. http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=222884 This looks a lot like the Gios case where nobody could say for sure if Marinoni ever made such lower level bikes.

John Betmanis
Woodstock, Ontario
Canada