Re: [CR] So-called death stems; where exactly.....

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Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:40:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <>
Subject: Re: [CR] So-called death stems; where exactly.....
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My point was more the public reaction than the circumstances of the failure, i.e. a spectacular, exhaustively documented failure does not cause panic, but vague rumors can cause parts to be labeled a "death" whatever. The one similarity is that we are talking about fatigue failures of aluminum structures.


Jerry Moos Big Spring, TX wrote: Just FYI, that famous 737 failure occurred on a plane that had experienced something on the order of 300,000 compression / decompression cycles. It was a short-hop aircraft that had made over 300,000 take-offs and landings! It caused Boeing to re-write the maintenance specs. for 737s. It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with bicycle parts breaking.

Greg Parker Ann Arbor, Michigan

Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:47:35 -0800 (PST) From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos To:,,, Subject: [CR]Re: So-called death stems; where exactly.....

I've never had one fail, although I'm sure some do, as do some Cinelli and TTT stems. It would seem SOMEONE must have experienced such a failure, or perhaps heard rumors of such failures, else where did this "death stem" thing come from? Unless the Cinelli and TTT marketing boys just manufactured the whole thing to trash the competition.

Funny thing, one of the most spectacular failures of an aluminum structure, in which most of the top of an Aloha Ailines jetliner tore away in mid-flight some years ago, is absolutely undisputed and exhaustively documented. Yet no one speaks of "death planes" and the incident didn't seem to scare people away from flying, at least not for long.


Jerry Moos Big Spring, TX wrote: they fail? Anyone? Anyone? Ferris? Ferris Bueller?

Dale Brown
Greensboro, NC USA