Now: Preserving a bike's build, Was: [CR]OK, I want to cry!

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Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:28:57 -0500
From: <loudeeter@aol.com>
In-Reply-To: <20060119033108.2819.qmail@web60416.mail.yahoo.com>
Subject: Now: Preserving a bike's build, Was: [CR]OK, I want to cry!
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


Ray Dobbins & Mike Kone make a good point. I own one, what I would call, historically significant bike--the Peter Weigle that was in Bicycling and Playboy magazine in the early-mid 80s. When Gianni Pergolizzi sold it to me, the deal included my commitment to keeping the parts package together. It has a rare prototype C-Record group on it. And, guess what? The parts are the same model, but not the exact parts that were in the magazine. Does that make it non-original? I suppose. I even went so far as to ask his and Peter's "permission" to remove some of the parts so that I could install less rare parts on it so that I can ride it. And, I rode it twice last weekend. Also, if I ever do decide to sell the bike, I will offer it to Gianni first, and then "pick" the buyer who has similar trust.

Regarding Chuck's "seller's remorse", I'm a bit confused by one point. Chuck says that if we see NOS Super Record parts on ebay, then they may have come from his bike. He also says he rode it and cleaned it regularly. I guess my definition of NOS parts and his may differ. Also, if the parts are indeed NOS, and, he slaved to build the bike like that, then that implies this wasn't an original, complete bike to begin with, but one that he custom built. Since NOS parts are readily available, I'm trying to understand why it is wrong for someone to part out a non-original bike, even if someone put their sweat and time into assembling it.

And, I agree with Ted Ernst that lying and misleading people about intentions can really piss you off.

Finally, as Peter Kohl says, we have a mix of folks on the CR list. There are many listmembers who have purchased parts and bikes from me over the years. Not a single one ever complained that the parts might have come from a bike that I parted out. And, I've received many requests from people for me to sell them only the frame/fork, which would at least mean that I would have to part out the bike to accommodate them.

Lou Deeter, Orlando FL

"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."

--Bill Clinton, President

like mike kone indicated, if you want a bike to be preserved intact after you sell it, don't sell it to a stranger. sell it to someone you know who wants to keep it the way it is. to expect a stranger to preserve your bike (as i once did), is not realistic, or fair to the new owner.

ray dobbins
miami florida