Re: [CR] Ebay Eddy Hour Bike and a fair warning quandry.


Example: Humor:John Pergolizzi

Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:31:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Wesley Gadd <wesleygadd@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR] Ebay Eddy Hour Bike and a fair warning quandry.
To: gpvb1@comcast.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <012120060321.26878.43D1A8B000032737000068FE2200750330CE0D909F09@comcast.net>


FWIW, I asked the seller if he had any documentation of the bikes provenance, which he does not. So it's just a track frame of an uncertain maker with some unusual parts as far as I'm concerned. A neat bike, but not worth more than the premium the Dura-Ace 10 would bring.

Best regards, Wes Gadd Unionville,Ct

gpvb1@comcast.net wrote:

Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:53:51 -0800 From: vjp@telus.net To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Ebay Eddy Hour Bike and a fair warning quandry.

Last night I was on EBAY and looked at this auction,

http://cgi.ebay.com/1972-Eddy-Merckx-Track-Bike_W0QQitemZ7212481856QQcategor yZ98084QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The whole story seems a lttle suspect to me, and that bike is not a Colnago, DeRosa or Merckx as far as I am concerned.

It was supposedly "built" up in the early 80's and the decals added then. The decals look to be late 80's early nineties, the rims are early nineties and well...it just looks like it was recently built up with some NOS parts, some in the 80's and some not. It has been built up for 25 years and never ridden? Never?

I started to send a message to the seller that maybe the person they got the bike from had "embellished" but that it was probably not correct. Then I thought, what if the seller knows that and is not being truthful...??? Would they change the auction?

I deleted my message to the seller and instead sent a short message to the highest bidder that I didn't think that the listing was correct and if they wanted I would give my reasons in a following e-mail.

This morning I received an email from the SELLER!! He wanted to know why I didn't contact Him of I thought something was up and to "stop sabotaging my auction".

I felt stupid. Why didn't I contact him first? I would appreciate it myself. But I was even more surprised that the high bidder would have passed along my email to the seller without asking what my thoughts were first...???

I have been pondering all day, mainly thinking that I should mind my own business, and the I had the thought that maybe the high bidder was a shill bid. I don't know.

Minutes ago I received an e-mail from the high bidder stating "I don't really care if EDDY rode it or not, I'm just interested in the bike". But asked for my thoughts on the bike.

I then checked on the high bidder and realized that he/she is also in wisconsin, like the seller.

What do you think?

Victor Penner

Vancouver/bc/canada

Victor:

That sounds like a shill to me. I'll bet $100 that he isn't the high bidder at the close of the auction, if the reserve has been met. Shills never push a listing to its reserve, as a general rule.

That story about that frameset sets off my BS alarm pretty loudly. Nice parts, though. Scott, what do you think about it?

Greg Parker
Ann Arbor, Michigan