Re: [CR]Odd Campagnolo cranks for the experts...


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Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:35:42 -0800
From: Tam Pham <terminaut@gmail.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Odd Campagnolo cranks for the experts...
In-Reply-To: <d2.372263e8.311009a8@aol.com>
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Mark - thanks for the link to your auction. At this point I'm pretty sure these cranks aren't machined down versions of the SR/NR cranks or Ofmegas (at least not the ones in your auction). The arms are wider, and in general the cranks seem to have more material and are more stout. Here's a photo of the Pista non-drive arm versus the mystery set's:

http://chainedrevolution.com/CS/photos/general/images/73/original.aspx

...and if you look at the spider-to-crank junction, the mystery cranks have quite a bit more of the arm connected to the spider:

http://chainedrevolution.com/CS/photos/general/images/74/original.aspx

As for the concentric machined circles on the back of the spider, I haven't seen any other crank manufacturers leave that treatment on their cranks. Does anyone know another set of cranks like that?

Tam Pham Huntington Beach, CA

On 1/30/06, FujiFish1@aol.com <FujiFish1@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Tam,
> Here's some Ofmega cranks that are "Mexico" copies, I just happened to
> have
> sold on Ebay:
> <
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7213198703&rd=1&ss pagename
> =STRK%3AMESO%3AIT&rd=1>
>
> Or, Ebay item number 7213198703.
>
> If you want the real photos, and not just the Ebay shrinky dink versions,
> let
> me know.
>
> What about measurements ... are there any dimensions you can find on the
> subject crank that exceed those of an unmodified Campy crank? For
> example, an arm
> in total length measures just a tad over 20.5cm; so if your subject arm
> should measure clearly larger than that, it cannot be a modified Campy N/ S
> Record
> era crank. Of course, it could also be a modified Gran Sport crank. :)
>
> Ciao,
> Mark Agree
> Southfield MI USA
> ~ ~ ~
>
>
> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:37:18 -0800
> From: Tam Pham <terminaut@gmail.com>
> To: Brandon Ives <brandon@ivycycles.com>
> Cc: CR <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Odd Campagnolo cranks for the experts...
>
> That'd be interesting if someone would go to such length to clone a Campy
> crankset, and do it so poorly even! Can you point me to some photos of th e
> Ofmega cranks of interest? Googling isn't turning up anything for me.
>
> I just pulled off a Pista drive side arm from one of my bikes, and I'm
> starting to convince myself that these cranks could really be the real
> deal
> .
> Check out this photo:
>
> http://chainedrevolution.com/CS/photos/general/images/72/original.aspx
>
> As I mentioned before, note the concentric machining circles sort of
> unique
> to Campagnolo... but now check out the spindle hole! It's identical as fa r
> as I can tell.
>
>
> Tam Pham
> Huntington Beach, CA
>
>
>
> On 1/30/06, Brandon Ives <brandon@ivycycles.com> wrote:
> >
> > 100% FAKEY FAKE.
> > They look like Ofmega cranks that have been profiled and then stamped
> > both front and rear. I think the best tell that these are fake are the
> > "campy" stamps. First the one on the driveside seems to be closer to
> > the spindle whole and the stamps are slightly rotated and closer to one
> > side of the arm off center. Second is the huge cut-out for a pedal
> > washer.
> > best,
> > Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
> > Vancouver, B.C.
> >
> > On Monday, Jan 30, 2006, at 14:20 US/Pacific, David Bilenkey wrote:
> >
> > > Tam,
> > >
> > > What's the BCD on these cranks? I agree that they do look like a
> > > copy/fakes.
> > >
> > > David
> > > --
> > > David Bilenkey
> > > Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
> > > dbilenkey@sympatico.ca
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> > >> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Tam Pha m
> > >> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:49 PM
> > >> To: CR
> > >> Subject: [CR]Odd Campagnolo cranks for the experts...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> I recently picked up a set of Campagnolo cranks unlike
> > >> anything I've seen before and was wondering if perhaps
> > >> someone else could identify the set. I almost think it's a
> > >> fake, but the stamped wing logo seems like it would require
> > >> elaborate work. As always, any info shed upon these cranks
> > >> would be much appreciated.
> > >>
> > >> See photos here:
> > >>
> > >> http://chainedrevolution.com/CS/photos/general/category1024.aspx
> > >>
> > >> Cheers from Huntington Beach, California!
> > >>
> > >> -Tam Pham