I think we are all forgetting that a lot of high end frames were available in the late 70s and early 80s. They weren't all italian. My Trek 700 can be specced out any way I want and still be original. (As the original owner spec is whatever I want it to be as long as the parts are period. I am currently doing it with a french theme. Too much italian out there. ) Most of the racers I rode with couldn't afford Campy so we bought what we could and raced it. Raleigh, Trek, Peugeot, Alan, Graftek, and a whole host of others came as frames. (Hell, use a Colnago. They came as frames too) Put your Superbe parts on one of those and ride happy.
La Crosse, WI
On Dec 31, 2005, at 8:07 PM, Wesley Gadd wrote:
> Happy New Year! I believe that the Pinarello that Alexi Grewal won the
> Olympic road race with (1984???) was all Superbe Pro. And I'd think it
> would be appropriate on almost any American or British bike of the
> period. If I had it to do over again I'd have used this rather than
> the big C in my racing days.
> Best regards,
> Wes Gadd
> AdventureCORPS News <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> Hi gang and Happy New Year!
> A while back, I asked which bicycles commonly were spec'd with Suntour
> Superbe Pro parts. Surprisingly (to me), pretty much everything that
> was suggested to me is a Japanese brand. I asked because I have a lot
> of Superbe Pro parts and am trying to decide how best to put them to
> good use.
> Here's what people had to say (and I hope and assume they don't mind
> that I name them by name with their comments; most CC'd the CR list in
> their reply, but some did not):
> Peter Weigle: FUJI------FUJI------FUJI---------- That's all I know!
> John Barry: I'm pretty sure that the top of the line Nishiki, Miyata
> and Fuji bicycles (each of which would have included the model name
> "Professional") would have come with this group. The Raleigh Superbe
> also had it. I believe that there were other brands and other models
> that would have had this (I'm pretty sure the Fuji "Newest" has this
> also), but I'm not sure which ones.
> Lou Deeter: Find a nice 3Rensho or early Specialized Allez. Perfect
> Pat Moffat: I had a Schwinn Peloton that was OT (about 1986). It was a
> great bike...Columbus Tubing, sew-ups, and a beautiful pearl red. The
> Superbe Pro gruppo was a perfect fit.
> Terry McClintock: Not that it's much help to you, but I had a first or
> second year Cannondale racing bike that came equipped with full
> components. It was second from the top of their line, the top being
> full Campy record. I grew to dislike the bike, probably due to poor
> fit and punishing ride, but loved the components. Their finish seemed
> as good as the comparable Campy stuff.
> Galen Poole: I no longer own any Japanese bikes, but at one time I had
> several, and really wanted some of the top of the line bikes with
> Superbe Pro or Dura Ace. The companies that typically used these
> components (and I'm sure there were many more) included Miyata,
> Bridgestone, Panasonic, and Shogun. I had a friend with a big-tube
> Klein (sorry Dale) with Superbe Pro, but I honestly don't know if it
> came that way, or if he fitted it out with the group. I have no idea if
> other American or European frame builders routinely used these groups,
> which in their first iterations were Campagnolo clones.
> Mark Owings: I have a Waterford-built Paramount from 1987 that was
> built with Superbe Pro.
> All the best and thanks to those who sent their comments and insights!
> Chris Kostman
> Oak Park, CA