Re: [CR]French tubes...was top tube cable clips

(Example: Framebuilders:Mario Confente)

Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:14:27 -0500 (EST)
From: "Nick Zatezalo" <>
To: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <>, Tom Sanders <>,
Subject: Re: [CR]French tubes...was top tube cable clips

Why would any one want to place Italian components on a French bicycle? I have owned 30-40 Italian bicycles and never once thought of using French components on any of them. My one French bicycle was equipped with all French components. Just wondering.

Nick Zatezalo Atlanta,Ga.

-----Original Message-----

>From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <>

>Sent: Jan 10, 2006 3:09 PM

>To: Tom Sanders <>,

>Subject: Re: [CR]French tubes...was top tube cable clips


>Mais non, mon ami. French downtube and seattube were smaller, 28mm vs 28.6mm (1 1/8"), but the toptube was larger, 26mm vs 25.4mm (1"). Sheldon's site gives an excellent summary of French bike dimensions (both frames and components) versus English/ISO. One usually first discovers the larger toptube when one tries to install Campy cable clips on a French bike. You can usually make them fit, but only with great effort.


> Regards,


> Jerry Moos

> Big Spring, TX


>Tom Sanders <> wrote:

> Jerry Moos wrote : "Did Campy ever make


>> clips with longer screws for use on French bikes?"


>I thought the reason Campagnolo made those crescent shaped shims to go under

>clamp on components was because French tubes were smaller...Am I mistaken on

>this? Perhaps one of the lists Francophiles can illuminate the subject a



>Tom Sanders


>No French bikes in Lansing, Mi