Doug, I have missed your postings they were the main reason I joined the CR list having read all your previous postings on the CR archive. Positive all those who stated that DB spokes go back a to Victorian times are spot on. They were certainly in wide usage in the 1930's here in the UK. Normal size was 15/17 as you know being an experienced club cyclists and a wheel builder. The also used 12/14 DB spokes on tandems in the 30's and if you ever find any please let me know as I could use them. Recently I posted a little about Macleans and Featherweights being two separate firms, please view previous correspondence in the CR archives. One of the list members mentioned a VCC Macleans archivist in his letter and as I am not a member of this club I contacted one of the few members who I know regularly cycle with this organization. He kindly passed all of my Macleans stuff onto the VCC and they were very surprised to find out that these had indeed been two different separate firms in the 1920's. He was also surprised by the other early addresses of Macleans. So the bit about the second shop posted by another member is incorrect. Got a loverly note from the VCC man via the third party thanking me for all my information. The VCC man is doing a lot more research on this matter but it seems certain that the amalgamation of Featherweights and Macleans was in 1925. I have since done some further delving and it looks like that they reverted back to Featherweights name for a short time in 1927? If you have any access to Cycling's of the 1920's I would be grateful if you could search for advertisements for these two firms. Finally the chap who passed all the stuff onto the VCC hates motor cars, just like me although he does now drive, I don't. When I first met him he was cycling with a lad who use to build frames here on Ynys Mon, like me he cycled everywhere and loathed the car, when I spoke to him the other night he did make me laugh when I reminded him of those car free days. His response was "I spent loads of time back then in the 60's and 70's fighting and campaigning to save the planet the only trouble was the cycling group I was with were mostly off this planet! Eastway is being closed for re-development for the forthcoming London Olympics if you can get there for the racing it will be a great send off and a very sad day. The British cycling scene will be poorer for it closing. The SVCC and perhaps the VCC used it for some events in the 70's but on the brighter side loads of cycling clubs will be in attendance and I suspect lots of vintage and classic machines will be there. As you know all the greats rode there in the 70's including Eddy Merckx who adored the circuit. Best wishes and thanks for sharing your cycling memories Joe. PS. Could you please pass the Eastway email onto as many clubs and club-folk as possible. Croeso Cymru Joe King Nr. Maenaddwyn Ynys Mon Wales