Re: [CR]WTB-NOS Campy Band-On Front Derailleur (Triple)


Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:34:48 +0000 (GMT)
From: joebz@optonline.net
Subject: Re: [CR]WTB-NOS Campy Band-On Front Derailleur (Triple)
In-reply-to: <s52bb3e0.015@inetgw.co.ba.md.us>
To: Daniel Artley <dartley@co.ba.md.us>
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cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Dan has zeroed in on why some (well me anyway) don't think the world of the Campy NR front for a triple and others think its fine. In the first place if you use a half step plus granny, the NR (or is it Record really) does a great job for what it was first designed, the two half step rings. It is passible if the granny is not too elderly, perhaps 32 or so depending on all the freewheel and chain variables. I tend to use TA Cyclotourist rings with a tiny 24 or 22 ring. My touring experience has been that you cannot have a low enough gear, especially if tendonitus or some other adversity arises mid-tour.

There is also a later Campy front derailleur related to the 980 with an alpine type cage that works nicely. Perhaps it is from an early mountain group and I bet it is off topic.

My real favorite for triples is the Huret Success or whatever that goes with the Duopar. The one with the little spring loaded inner chain plate at the front. Note that those never sell for $10 like the 980!

Joe Bender-Zanoni
Great Notch, NJ


----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Artley
Date: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: [CR]WTB-NOS Campy Band-On Front Derailleur (Triple)
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


> I think a NR front derailleur is a great triple setup for a half

\r?\n> step and

\r?\n> granny, if the granny's not too extreme (although that might

\r?\n> more relate

\r?\n> to the pull of the rear jockey cage). I've used a half step of

\r?\n> 48x52 and

\r?\n> 48x53 with a NR and it works really well. I've got a Viking

\r?\n> with 32x48x52

\r?\n> and a 14-26 that works great with the NR front. I had been

\r?\n> using a NR

\r?\n> rear as well when the granny was 36. Another setup I have of

\r?\n> 28x48x53 and

\r?\n> 13-32 on the back exceeds a NR's cage when you use the 4th cog

\r?\n> in back

\r?\n> from largest when in the granny. The chain will just drag the

\r?\n> bottom of

\r?\n> the front cage. I'm using other derailleurs front and rear.

\r?\n> The Campy

\r?\n> 980 may be longer, but is still very similar to the NR in shape

\r?\n> and size.

\r?\n> I've tried a 980 on an alpine triple of 32x42x53 that worked

\r?\n> terribly.

\r?\n> I've generalized that these shifters don't work well with alpine

\r?\n> chainring

\r?\n> combinations. Maybe it was the chain, but I'm thinking that an

\r?\n> alpine

\r?\n> style front derailleur might handle that type of chainset a bit

\r?\n> better,

\r?\n> the one's with a non parallel plate cage. I'm not even sure

\r?\n> there is a

\r?\n> vintage equivalent, but I'm looking for one. I've got that SR

\r?\n> crank w/

\r?\n> 32x42x53 hanging on the wall waiting for it.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Happy trails,

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Dan Artley in Sunny Parkton, Maryland

\r?\n>

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Archive-URL:

\r?\n> http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=classicrendezvous.10610.0429.eml

\r?\n> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 18:50:51 -0700 (GMT-07:00)

\r?\n> From: "Marc St. Martin"

\r?\n> Subject: [CR]WTB-NOS Campy Band-On Front Derailleur (Triple) -

\r?\n> early '80s

\r?\n> for my Jack Taylor Tourist

\r?\n> Hello,

\r?\n> Subject says it all. Got a great NOS rear mech (Rally) from Nick

\r?\n> at

\r?\n> Campy

\r?\n> Only, now I'm looking for a front. I'm not bargain hunting.

\r?\n> Regards,

\r?\n> Marc St. Martin

\r?\n> Livermore, CA