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> 1. Re: WTB-NOS Campy Band-On Front Derailleur (Triple)
> 2. NOS Campy Band-on FD for my Jack Taylor (Marc St. Martin)
> 3. Re: WTB-NOS Campy Band-On Front Derailleur (Triple) - early '80s
> for my Jack Taylor Tourist
> 4. Torelli Oral Histories (Silver, Mordecai)
> 5. WTB-NOS Campy Band-On Front Derailleur (Triple)
> (Marie VanRemortel)
> 6. Re: WTB-NOS Campy Band-On Front Derailleur (Triple) (Tom Hayes)
> 7. sheldonbrown.com/cyclopedia (Sheldon Brown)
> 8. 650c tubs (Philip Easton)
> 9. Selle Italia Storika for sale (The Maaslands)
> 10. Re: Heylett Cycles (Joe King)
> 11. Re: WTB-NOS Campy Band-On Front Derailleur (Triple)
> (Daniel Artley)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:08:33 EDT
> From: BobHoveyGa@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]WTB-NOS Campy Band-On Front Derailleur (Triple)
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> In a message dated 10/10/06 9:31:57 AM, Jerry writes:
>
>
> > The standard Nuovo Record FD works surprisingly well on a triple. I
> > discovered this when I bought a Matt Assenmacher touring bike from Tom San
> ders. I
> > has an NR front with an Ofmega triple and shifts just fine. I don't thi
> nk
> > there was a Campy triple-specific FD corresponding to the Rally RD. An
> > excellent triple-specific FD of the era was the Simplex SLJ triple version
> .
> >
>
>
>
>
> Just as an aside, let me note that the SLJ double version would also shift
> most triples just fine... I think both derailleurs had the same body and sam
> e
> range of throw, just different cages. I used the double SLJ with a 36-45-5
> 4
> Stronglight 93, no problems.
>
> Bob Hovey
> Columbus, GA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:06:14 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
> From: "Marc St. Martin" <marc.stmartin@earthlink.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]NOS Campy Band-on FD for my Jack Taylor
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> Hello Listmembers,
>
> I wanted to thank everyone who responded to my inquiry. I just did a BIN on an NOS 980 FD for next-to-nothing. As always, this list is great!
>
> Regards,
>
> Marc St. Martin
> Livermore, CA
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:55:46 +0000 (GMT)
> From: joebz@optonline.net
> To: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]WTB-NOS Campy Band-On Front Derailleur (Triple) - early '80s
> for my Jack Taylor Tourist
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> I think the NR is really strained for triple usage. What I like is the cheap and still quite available Campagnolo 980. Longer cage with tons of travel.
>
> Please let Marc have a crack at this $10 solution on Ebay #
>
> 200034496959
>
> Joe Bender-Zanoni
> Great Notch, NJ
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos
> Date: Monday, October 9, 2006 10:33 pm
> Subject: Re: [CR]WTB-NOS Campy Band-On Front Derailleur (Triple) - early '80s for my Jack Taylor Tourist
> To: "Marc St. Martin" , classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>
> > The standard Nuovo Record FD works surprisingly well on a
> > triple. I discovered this when I bought a Matt Assenmacher
> > touring bike from Tom Sanders. I has an NR front with an Ofmega
> > triple and shifts just fine. I don't think there was a Campy
> > triple-specific FD corresponding to the Rally RD. An excellent
> > triple-specific FD of the era was the Simplex SLJ triple version.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry Moos
> > Big Spring, Republic of Texas
> >
> > "Marc St. Martin" wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Subject says it all. Got a great NOS rear mech (Rally) from Nick
> > at Campy Only, now I'm looking for a front. I'm not bargain hunting.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Marc St. Martin
> > Livermore, CA
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:26:35 -0400
> From: "Silver, Mordecai" <MSilver@iso.com>
> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Torelli Oral Histories
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>
> These articles are new to me:
> http://www.bikeraceinfo.com/
>
> Among these is an excellent article by the historian David Herlihy on
> Cino Cinelli:
> http://www.bikeraceinfo.com/
>
> Interview with Bill Kund, one of the few Americans racing in Europe in
> the early '70's: http://www.bikeraceinfo.com/
>
> Interview with Pietro Piazzalunga, Mechanic to Champions:
> http://www.bikeraceinfo.com/
>
> And there's more great stuff, like interviews with Gimondi, Bitossi, and
> Vercelli.
>
> Mordecai Silver
> New York, NY
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:37:38 +0000
> From: "Marie VanRemortel" <germanyvrs@hotmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]WTB-NOS Campy Band-On Front Derailleur (Triple)
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> I don't think there is anything strained about using the NR on a triple...
> I use the triple NR crankset (36/47/52) as well as a TA (52/47/30) and both
> work fine with a NR in case anyone is trying a similiar setup. The
> adjustments still have excess in both directions but I don't need it, might
> relate to my BBs which are slightly longer than double Phils (~116) for a
> better chain line on the two main rings. Rarely to I use the inner ring
> unless it's a bugger of a hill...
> Regards,
> Bruce VanRemortel
> Landstuhl, Germany
> 68 and nice today but had to work underground with no windows for 12 hours,
> ah....
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:03:47 -0500
> From: "Tom Hayes" <hayesbikes@gmail.com>
> To: "Marie VanRemortel" <germanyvrs@hotmail.com>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]WTB-NOS Campy Band-On Front Derailleur (Triple)
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> My experience is similar to Bruce's. I have a Jack Taylor, used for cross
> country touring, that has a NR front derailleur to a TA crank, that is
> 52/46/26(okay, so I'm old and tired) with a five speed in the rear that is
> 14-32. The NR front derailleur handles it with a little room to spare.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Tom Hayes
> Chagrin Falls, Ohio USA
>
> On 10/10/06, Marie VanRemortel <germanyvrs@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't think there is anything strained about using the NR on a triple...
> > I use the triple NR crankset (36/47/52) as well as a TA (52/47/30) and
> > both
> > work fine with a NR in case anyone is trying a similiar setup. The
> > adjustments still have excess in both directions but I don't need it,
> > might
> > relate to my BBs which are slightly longer than double Phils (~116) for a
> > better chain line on the two main rings. Rarely to I use the inner ring
> > unless it's a bugger of a hill...
> > Regards,
> > Bruce VanRemortel
> > Landstuhl, Germany
> > 68 and nice today but had to work underground with no windows for 12
> > hours,
> > ah....
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Get today's hot entertainment gossip
> > http://movies.msn.com/
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Tom Hayes
> Chagrin Falls, Ohio
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:18:25 -0400
> From: Sheldon Brown <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com>
> To: Classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>,
> BOB List <internet-bob@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]sheldonbrown.com/cyclopedia
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> A blast from the past:
>
> http://sheldonbrown.com/
>
> Sheldon "Musty & Dusty" Brown
> +-----------------------------------------------------+
> | Those who do not remember the past are condemned |
> | to repeat it --George Santayana |
> +-----------------------------------------------------+
> --
> Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
> Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
> http://harriscyclery.com
> Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
> http://captainbike.com
> Useful articles about bicycles and cycling
> http://sheldonbrown.com
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:34:26 -0700
> From: Philip Easton <sybaspex@tcsn.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]650c tubs
> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20061010112917.01fd4f88@inmail.tcsn.net>
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>
> Hi All, I have three new Gommitalia Freccia 26 (650c) tubulars that I don't
> need. $50 buys all three incl. shipping in US. I think they sell for
> about $30 ea. All the best, Phil Easton, Cambria, California, USA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:44:46 -0400
> From: "The Maaslands" <TheMaaslands@comcast.net>
> To: "CR" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Selle Italia Storika for sale
> Message-ID: <021801c6ec9c$2bd39e20$0200a8c0@HPLAPTOP>
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>
> For those of you wanting to get a modern saddle that in some ways
> replicates classic elements, I have a few Selle Italia Storkia saddles
> that I would like to sell.
>
> If you are not familiar with the saddle, you can check out the first two
> photos here:
>
> http://album.foto.alice.it/
>
> I woud like to get $80 a piece (including shipping with in the US) for
> them. The saddles are new, still in their boxes. They have a titanium
> alloy frame and weight in under 200g. These saddles have a suggested
> retail of about $180 and the lowest price that I have been able to find
> anywhere is from Nashbar with it being offered at $99.95.
>
> Steven Maasland
> Moorestown, NJ
> USA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:45:44 +0100
> From: "Joe King" <joeking@fastmail.fm>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR] Re: Heylett Cycles
> Message-ID: <1160505944.18086.273007075@webmail.messagingengine.com>
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> All I can tell you is that they were about in the early 1940's. The
> following were all contracted to ride for them:
> Lucien Acou, Albert Adam, Jean Bim Diederich Tour de France
> 1947,48,49,50,51,52,53 3 Stage wins.
> This is the earliest reference I have circa 1941.
> Croeso Cymru Joe King Nr. Maenaddwyn Ynys Mon Wales
>
> --
> http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:52:43 -0400
> From: "Daniel Artley" <dartley@co.ba.md.us>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]WTB-NOS Campy Band-On Front Derailleur (Triple)
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>
> I think a NR front derailleur is a great triple setup for a half step and
> granny, if the granny's not too extreme (although that might more relate
> to the pull of the rear jockey cage). I've used a half step of 48x52 and
> 48x53 with a NR and it works really well. I've got a Viking with 32x48x52
> and a 14-26 that works great with the NR front. I had been using a NR
> rear as well when the granny was 36. Another setup I have of 28x48x53 and
> 13-32 on the back exceeds a NR's cage when you use the 4th cog in back
> from largest when in the granny. The chain will just drag the bottom of
> the front cage. I'm using other derailleurs front and rear. The Campy
> 980 may be longer, but is still very similar to the NR in shape and size.
> I've tried a 980 on an alpine triple of 32x42x53 that worked terribly.
> I've generalized that these shifters don't work well with alpine chainring
> combinations. Maybe it was the chain, but I'm thinking that an alpine
> style front derailleur might handle that type of chainset a bit better,
> the one's with a non parallel plate cage. I'm not even sure there is a
> vintage equivalent, but I'm looking for one. I've got that SR crank w/
> 32x42x53 hanging on the wall waiting for it.
>
> Happy trails,
>
> Dan Artley in Sunny Parkton, Maryland
>
>
> Archive-URL: http://search.bikelist.org/
> vous.10610.0429.eml
> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 18:50:51 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
> From: "Marc St. Martin" <marc.stmartin(AT)earthlink.net>
> Subject: [CR]WTB-NOS Campy Band-On Front Derailleur (Triple) - early '80s
> for my Jack Taylor Tourist
> Hello,
> Subject says it all. Got a great NOS rear mech (Rally) from Nick at
> Campy
> Only, now I'm looking for a front. I'm not bargain hunting.
> Regards,
> Marc St. Martin
> Livermore, CA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
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