Re: [CR]Dura Ace hub question NOW history

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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 17:15:52 +0200
From: "Freek Faro" <khun.freek@gmail.com>
To: "Tom Dalton" <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Dura Ace hub question NOW history
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David, Tom,

In 1988 Dura Ace (called: 'New Dura Ace') hubs were indeed available in both cassette and freewheel versions. The frewheel were avialable in 6 and 7 speed, and I consider the best freewheels ever. I cover the ones i still have and use.

We really are veering off-topic (well, off-timeline) here!

Freek (7-speed freewheels work with 8-speed Ergo shifters!) Faro Rotterdam Netherlands

2006/10/13, Tom Dalton <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com>:
>
> David,
>
> I might be interested to see your catalog scans, because what you've said
> doesn't exactly correlate to what I remember. As I recall, the EX hubs were
> actually cassette only, as were the Direction-6 EX hubs and the AX
> hubs. Only when the 7400 group came out was the screw-on hub again
> offered. After AX, the 7400 group represented a big swing back toward
> conservatism on the part of Shimano. Other than the obvious addition of
> SIS, which turned out to be a very significant improvement, the 7400 group
> was more or less modeled on NR/SR parts. There were lots of little
> "improvements" over the Campy offerings, and some relatively minor features,
> like the low profile pedals, were substantially different from Campy, but
> overall the group was pretty conservative, at least relative to AX.
>
> I may be wrong about the lack of a screw-on EX hub, but I think it was the
> addition of the cassette that defined the EX hub. Other than the addition
> of the cassette (a major differece) the only difference I recall is the QR
> nut. So, a screw on EX would have been just an original DA with a different
> QR. If I'm correct here, I suppose the real question would be whether
> Shimano kept making the screw-on DA hub after 1978, slappping on an EX QR
> nut and dropping it in a different box.
>
> Actually, it seems that early in the EX days, Shimano played a little fast
> and loose on the packaging. I've seen some NIP DA spare parts in EX
> packaging.
>
> Tom Dalton
> Bethlehem, PA, USA
>
>
>
>
>
> CR timeline hubs were made in both freewheel and freehub variants (I
> have catalogue scans if anyone needs to see them), and I have post CR ~'86
> Dura Ace 7400 series hubs in both freehub and freewheel versions. I don't
> think Dura Ace was exclusively freehub until ~'88-'89 or so.
>
> David
> --
> David Bilenkey
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>
>
>
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