[CR]wtb- suntour superbe BB and HS (eng)

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From: "dan polito" <thepandle@hotmail.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:41:25 -0400
Subject: [CR]wtb- suntour superbe BB and HS (eng)

listos- looking for a suntour superbe BB (english) with a 112/114ish spindle. going to be used with a suntour superbe double. also, looking for a suntour superbe complete headset.

must be in good+ condition, no severe pitting in races, a few scratches are ok. threading on the BB cups must be in great shape.

going on a 1982 3rensho. from my understanding of the suntour catalogs, 1982 was the year in which the design shifted from the "superbe" style to the "superbe pro" style, which was unveiled in the 1983 catalog. so, i guess depending on the specific month the 3rensho was made, it would be appropriate either with superbe or superbe pro. so if you have some superbe pro bb or hs lying around, i might be interested in those as well.

oh, and if you happen to have an entire superbe/superbe pro gruppo lying around w/ braze on dt shifters, clamp on front der, 125 spaced rear then i would be completely interested.

thanks dan polito brooklyn, NY


>From: "David Bilenkey" <dbilenkey@sympatico.ca>
>To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: [CR]RE: Dura Ace hub question NOW history
>Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:26:58 -0400
>
>I've managed to find my 1980 Shimano catalogue/flyer. I'll scan the
>relevant
>bits later today or this weekend. But for the moment I'll just say that
>there were two Dura Ace lines in this catalogue. The 7100 series with
>the
>screw on freewheel type hubs and the Dura Ace EX (7200) series that had
>all
>the 'innovations' such as DD pedals, freehubs and Direction 6 and the
>lot.
>So Tom is correct there wasn't a screw on DA EX hub, but there was a DA
>hub
>offered concurrently. I agree that the 7400 series was a swing back to
>appeal more to the pro peloton. I'll also agree that for 600 and DA
>lines
>the addition of EX was a signifier of the cassettes, but cassettes were
>also
>found the Altus and Selecta lines of components.
>
>Once I get this scanned I'll put it up in my wooljersey album.
>
>David
>--
>David Bilenkey
>Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>dbilenkey@sympatico.ca
>
>http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/Bilenkeys-Bikestash
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom Dalton [mailto:tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com]
>Sent: October 13, 2006 11:05 AM
>To: dbilenkey@sympatico.ca
>Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Dura Ace hub question NOW history
>
>
>David,
>
>I might be interested to see your catalog scans, because what you've
>said
>doesn't exactly correlate to what I remember. As I recall, the EX hubs
>were
>actually cassette only, as were the Direction-6 EX hubs and the AX hubs.
>Only when the 7400 group came out was the screw-on hub again offered.
>After
>AX, the 7400 group represented a big swing back toward conservatism on
>the
>part of Shimano. Other than the obvious addition of SIS, which turned
>out
>to be a very significant improvement, the 7400 group was more or less
>modeled on NR/SR parts. There were lots of little "improvements" over
>the
>Campy offerings, and some relatively minor features, like the low
>profile
>pedals, were substantially different from Campy, but overall the group
>was
>pretty conservative, at least relative to AX.
>
>I may be wrong about the lack of a screw-on EX hub, but I think it was
>the
>addition of the cassette that defined the EX hub. Other than the
>addition
>of the cassette (a major differece) the only difference I recall is the
>QR
>nut. So, a screw on EX would have been just an original DA with a
>different
>QR. If I'm correct here, I suppose the real question would be whether
>Shimano kept making the screw-on DA hub after 1978, slappping on an EX
>QR
>nut and dropping it in a different box.
>
>Actually, it seems that early in the EX days, Shimano played a little
>fast
>and loose on the packaging. I've seen some NIP DA spare parts in EX
>packaging.
>
>Tom Dalton
>Bethlehem, PA, USA
>
>
>
>
>
>CR timeline hubs were made in both freewheel and freehub variants (I
>have catalogue scans if anyone needs to see them), and I have post CR
>~'86
>Dura Ace 7400 series hubs in both freehub and freewheel versions. I
>don't
>think Dura Ace was exclusively freehub until ~'88-'89 or so.
>
>David
>--
>David Bilenkey
>Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>
>
>
>
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